But anything over 600mm of pen is basically the same of 3BM60 got a buff then it would be kinda the same as M829A2 and DM53.
XM885 needs its buff though either give it 372mm of pen or 430mm.
The gun fired a variety of ammunition, including armor-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot (APFSDS), high explosive (HE), high explosive proximity (HE-P), and anti-aircraft multi-flechette. The ammunition used fiberglass casings which were originally developed for use with the Army’s 60 mm automatic cannon. The APFSDS round, a depleted uranium long rod projectile, was initially noted to have performance on par with the 105 mm round M774 used on the M1 Abrams. This was deemed insufficient and led to an ammunition development initiative called Delta 3. The gun breech was lengthened by three inches as part of Delta 3, allowing for a longer case and boosting muzzle velocity from 4,800 fps (1,463 m/s) to 5,300 fps (1,615 m/s). The Delta 3 round was designated XM885.
Delta 3 was followed by another initiative called Delta 6. Delta 6 could penetrate roughly 16.9 inches (430 mm) of rolled homogenous steel armor, though this too was deemed insufficient. Two 90 mm guns were developed and tested by Ares to address this lack of potency, but the Army would ultimately select conventionally loaded 105 mm guns for future light vehicles.
Just give it its correct penetration.
“The APFSDS round, a depleted uranium long rod projectile, was initially noted to have performance on par with the 105 mm round M774 used on the M1 Abrams.” 372mm of pen.
The only reason US top tier isn’t stomping is because of the Click-Bait and FOTM.
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We don’t need an M774 slinging 85 km/h piss missile. The HSTV-L is completely fine as is, and is quite good.
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Erm actually it’s 83km/h.🤓
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He is right though, the US has far too many top tier tanks to get a 2A7/122 counterpart. Sweden having 3 122s is the problem, its insanely stupid.
US has:
M1A1 HC
M1A2
M1A2 SEP
M1A2 SEP V2
M1A1 AIM
M1A1 CB
M1A1 CB (SM)
And they don’t lack any supporting vehicles, they have the best top tier light tank (HSTV-L), a meta heli (AH-64E), a good SPAA in the CLAWS, and pretty decent CASCraft.
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But still if they don’t buff XM885’s pen then buff its damage.
Is the F4S a good CAS plane at 12.7?
I’m asking bc that is my top tier CAS plane rn.
No, but the A2D-1 is.
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what makes you think that having only dumb bombs and rockets is good for cas at that br
Hmm I think that might be intentional lol.
I’m asking bc that is my top tier CAS plane rn.
it isnt
your rwr is pretty much useless
your armament is lacking and your flight performance is more than suboptimal
And I can’t really get any other CAS plane bc I suck at ARB with Missiles and my attacker and bomber line is at rank 4 and Naval and F15 line is at rank 6 “getting F100 soon”.
That doesn’t matter since none of them are 2a7/122 counterparts lol and are all basically the same tank. That’s like saying we shouldn’t add a Rafale counterpart because there are too many F-15s in the US tree.
Id say not pointless, but as I said, awkward.
When compared to the other two 12.0 pack premiums:
- abrams outreloads it, has better pen, arguably better armor and similiar mobility.
- T-80U-E1 has much better armor. And, sure, it has worse sabot but its not like it takes much to pen NATO tank hulls these days
- prolly bunch of other differences like thermals and smoke pops i cant name from top of my bead as im not at PC right now.
But allright, even if abrams is better and T-80 arguably has some advantages over it, it wouldnt be that big of a problem, someone has to pull the short end of the stick eventually.
But then you look at the 12.0 german lineup and realize the other 12.0 vehicle you can put to your lineup is the other premium 2A4M.
So whats there left to do? Move it down?
Eehhhh, with chally 2s and Arietes being there…
Id like to see it bumped up to 12.3 while recieving better shell.
Can you respawn in ARB?
M829A2 straight up UFPs T-80UE1.
sim, yes.