its always overleading them, im so used to ADENS 30 being like chucking rocks out the canopy im always putting the nose way far ahead. Got some tasty T.10 kills against F/A-18A with them
I’m saying the GSH-23, but I haven’t used all of them. and some I do worse with but have FAR less practice with like the BK-27… I would put that as a close 2nd worst due to the low placement and lack of practice with it
For me:
lack of trigger time and low slung gun placement combined with an air frame that is less agile and slower than what I’m used to at those BRs (I’m usually is a Saber or Mig-17 at 9.0ish) combined with the high ROF and low ammo pool… so basically I’m not used to it yet and its funnier to take the Alpha jet TH and just slap them in the face with an AIM-9P-4 then learn to use the gun… people still just seem to lock up in shock when they see a missile come off an alpha jet… especially in a head on.
I see, try them on the Tornado or the Gripen, those are amazing gun platforms for the BK27, I haven’t personally ever used the Alpha Jet aha
M39 on the F-5 feels like such crap to use. I’d take a 30mm NR30 (Su-22) any day.
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I think its a matter of perspective. Unlike the guns found on a lot of US jets, you cant spray ahead of the target and then walk the target into the stream of fire.
You need to be quite accurate, and some of the shells are pretty poor, but others are pretty good
I despise Gsh-23-2 and Type-23K cannons for ‘spit level’ firing distance paired with lackluster damage makes these cannons the worst by far. Even DEFA/ADEN’s are not that bad in comparison with these two.
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That’s interesting, I suppose I’m used to concentrating my fire from playing Japan and stuff, but I’ve never had any issues with it at all. I see what you mean about walking the target into it, but that’s kinda a stupid thing to do
Yeah it is. I personally dont have much issue wiht the 27mm, though I also find myself very rarely using it in SB on the GR4 or even the Typhoon.
After years of Tornado. My default is not the gun :D
I mean I don’t play jet SB much at all, I am much more into prop SB, but whenever playing ARB with the Tornado or Gripen I find it just a point and click adventure lolll
Its funny with the new Tornado FM dogfighting in the GR4. Ive gotten a few gunkills against F-16s :D
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If I got gunned down in a dogfight by a tornado I would really consider uninstalling
hehe
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First clip- F-18 has a US main moment and decides 1 flare is enough for an AIM-9M
F-16A decides to turn in front of your gun instead of just taking the headon or making a few turns
Second clip- MiG-29 decides not to go for the easy gun kill (It’s got a bad FM, its not that bad, especially compared to a tornado.) and then decides to just dump all of his flares instead of attemping to correctly flare said 9M
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I like the Adens. You have to lead a lot but they don’t lose much speed at distance, and hit like a nuke.
the 2 guns i dislike arent in the poll which are the guns on the q5/a5c and the aden 25, which is werid that i hated the aden 25 so much since i love the 30mm aden
tbf I last used it when the gripen was dropped so I could be biased
I still vividly remember being able to outturn like 6 people at once but the gun just doing nothing every single time
I see so many people hating the Gsh-23. I would say its one of my fav guns on top tier, i actually like it even more than Vulcan. But then i also have quite a lot games in various MiG-21s so i am used on it.
What top tiers have it? Apart from the JF-17 and J10
They mean 10.0+, not 14.0
alright. Never really liked the GsH 23 to be fair, I’ve gotten to use it on the MiG-21 and JF-17. Could just be me but I find the JF17 gun impossible to aim