What is the F-15E hype about?

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I just unlocked and spaded the F-15E, expecting it to be the beast everyone talks about, but I was severely disappointed to realise it’s sub-par at best, and completely uncompetitive at worst.

First, I must admit I have seen the videos of people climbing high, launching all their AMRAAMS and getting 6 kills, but after trying that in a match I can confirm that is extremely unrealistic. Normally you won’t get a kill at all, and just be a waste for your team.

Also, the flight model is quite frankly terrible. It does have really powerful engines, it can climb really high and go really fast, but the EF-2000 can do that just as well, while having better turning performance. Speaking of turning performance, the F-15E is a boat. For example, a Rafale can launch, pull 15g into the notch, and then use HMS to launch MICAs while they are still in the notch. On the other hand, The F-15E just has to hope they can get the first shot, and force the enemy defensive, which is unlikely because of the poor radar performance.

The radar is the F-15E is extremely sub-par. Trying to lock people with this radar is a nightmare. I have had cases where a enemy can be around 5km away, and my HMS just can’t lock him. Now compare this to the AESA radar on the Rafale, or the PESA radar on the SU-30SM, the difference is miles apart. This is rubbed in by the fact that IRL the F-15E was upgraded with an AESA radar around the same time it got its HMD upgrade.

I think in this post i have explained why the F-15E just can’t compete at top tier with all the superior airframes. The insane climb rate and speed, is only really useful for BVR engagements, that most of the time don’t work.

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You probably read comments made on old meta. You need to check timestamps more than likely. When it came out, it was extremely oppressive.

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Suprise suprise right?

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It was OP with its old flight model when it first came out.
Now it’s just a worse eurofighter

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Been trying to tell people the F-15E/I radar is amongst the worst I have ever used just to be met with comments from people who never even flown it that its just my skill issues, despite not having this problem with any other radar in game.

The thing is a BVR machine… that cant hold a proper lock a majority of the time with its TWS+ Function, rendering it below average at best.

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Yeah the whole gimmick of this plane is to climb high, launch AMRAAMs, and then just turn nose-cold. the problem with this is that unless the enemy flies straight, none of those AMRAAMs connect. Also, the EF-2000 can just do the same thing but better, and arguably the SU-30SM with its PESA radar and the R77-1s that ARE better than AMRAAMs.

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No, you do what you said except you guide until they go pitbull while cranking

not at this range

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It’s not uncompetitive for sure. It’s fair at 14.0. I don’t think it should go lower.

It happens but naturally it’s very rare. Don’t target the guys that are closer, higher and faster. Those are players that are doing an aggressive early game and are expected to go defensive when missiles get near them.

If you spam all 8 of your missiles and get 2 kills from that, you had a good outcome. Also, you are forcing the other team to defend early and forcing them to lose positioning. That might help your team indirectly, but naturally, you won’t get rewarded for it.

If you want to get more kills more often, you obviously need to be much closer and be more conservative with your shots.

The EF-2000 has a higher BR, so it is expected to be better.

You have a more reliable radar technically, for now, because the EF2000 has more unresolved issues when there’s a lot of activity in the air. Your RWR is also easier to use/read because “scale” on the EF one is stupidly big, also it’s incredibly sensitive and you NEED to lower RWR sensitivity in your settings or you will have lots of false positives and a lot of distractions.

What else?

You can carry 8 fox3s instead of being forced to carry 2 aim9m.

That’s about all your advantages. Anyway… The EF2000 is 14.3 since it’s better, mostly because of the FM.

Rafales will sealclub everything, even the EF2000 doesn’t stand much of a chance unless the rafale has no missiles left.

Every 13.7+ radar is about the same, except those 2 you mentioned and the F-2A, but the latter doesn’t get HMD.

If we got BR decompression, the F-15E might have a better BR placement, but for now, it shouldn’t go lower or higher. It would not be much of a fuss if it were 13.7, but it would not be very fair for the F-16C and some others, for example.

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no you do not, F-15E radar is terrible

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How would you know? You have never flown anything outside of the US tree except for a few Russian premiums

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cough n001e and n001vep at 13.7 cough. j-11a at 13.7 is a crime

from what i can tell f-15e radar is perfectly servicable. I don’t actually have the f-15e, but i have the j-11b which has the exact same scan patterns as the f-15e and it’s quite good

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Yeah forgot about those. The F-15E one is absolutelly better than those at the very least

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yeah to me all of the an/apg series radars are very solid. not bad at anything, generally good at everything. great narrow, and medium scans. mediocre wide scans however if they even get them

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Yeah from my point of view, most of these medium prf TWS radars work all the same with minor range differences. Some have more useful scan patterns than others, but that’s about it

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Powercrept by the EF and Rafale. It’s the life cycle of every vehicle. Some never even get to enjoy being meta top dog.

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Sufa cries in the corner

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i mean f-15e can’t really go down. I think most of the 13.7+s already in general shouldn’t really see anything below 13.3. it’s really damn compressed from ~12.7 onwards.
There’s just such a major difference between something like a 13.7 f-15jm and a 13.0 f-15a
It’s really unfortunate the compression that happens at higher brs.
Also this compression is what makes the 13.3 f-16s bloody fantastic, omega seal clubbing in semi downtiers while still being competitive in full uptiers.

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imo worse than the 16d lmao (air to air).
altho that thing shouldnt even be 13.3 in the first place, israeli mains ig

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its the heaviest F-15 loll what did you expect.

its called the strike eagle for a reason.
use it like that

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which is not what arb meta is
so it will always be out of place