Hello there, I really struggle since some days with MICA, so I decided to check the server replay to watch a 12km TWS MICA launch that should be successful but wasn’t (note: I was in Rafale with ““AESA”” radar and has keep soft lock all the way I can even if I was under Pitbull range)
So we can see that the Rafale RB2E radar isn’t working as an AESA (GG Gaijin, WTH you add F3R without any of his particularities. You should added M F1 or C F2…) and we can see the missiles go absolutely blind for several second just because 2 pop of Typhoon’ chaff! Then MICA tried to re-lock him (thx to TWS DL?) several time with strange angles and behaviour to finaly fall, inerte.
Meanwhile, I usually struggle to evade AIM-120B (who are far less manoeuverable in theory) with PERMAW chaff on and very hard G pulls!
So I tried another game where I decided to hardlock (!!!) a Su-27 but my MICA just decided to… Go kill an IFF tagged F-16 mate… “Hardlock”", from 6.000 meter high, to tango under me, and at short range… I know missiles can TK, I just was killed by Ally’ MICA a game before when I was dogfighting the last enemy Typhoon, but…
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So, are those issue related to any know issues? Is my 700mb/s network not enought stable? What can explain this?
MICA are already range nerfed (didn’t understand why, MBDA MICA is know to have 60/80km(IR/EM) range, Gaijin give it 50km (It’s 50miles, not km …), meantime R-77 is 50G/80Km (hum, I read R-77 can catch 9G mmaneuvering target maximum…?) and AIM-120A/B are 35G/80km (instead of 75km max for those)
So others gets “max” specs (for what I know), when frenchs get even under their minimal specs…
Maybe I’ll look like a salty baguette but come on…
Once it enters pitbull, it ignores the jet’s radar. As for the relock after, im not 100% sure but i assume that it shouldnt be going back to the jet’s radar after losing lock.
Does seems like some weird behavior. Hopefully someone else can give more info on it.
Yes, the only reasons rafale performs well is because others players are just bad and 2 eurofighter has his radar broken.
You can clearly make it work because the airframe is that good and it’s way easier to notch or make the ennemy missiles loose so much energy that it won’t catch you.
My main playstyle with the rafale is to go up and launch missiles at at worst 35km, if there is a missile coming for me really close i cancel that part and go away from it and when i come back ennemies are close enough but i still prefer to launch at 10km if possible because otherwise it won’t hit a lot.
And when people are actively multipathing and are in a bad spot compared to me it’s more reliable to launch the mica at 3km, it will hit more accurately.
you mind connecting on discord maybe sharing a replay?
I’m coming from aim120’s and having a hard time with the MICA’s, i can’t hit anything like anything AT ALL. I only really fire at targets below 10km and like 90% of the time the missile just looses it’s target. I go into replays frequently and to me it seems that the MICA’s really like to eat chaff for some reason and so does the radar. Until i hard lock guide the missile onto the target, it very rarely hits.
And tips on this?
Edit: at least to me it seems that for the MICA’s you need to hold the missiles hand all the way while for the AMRAAM’s you just throw it in the general direction and it hits, chaff or not
Sure, i feel like doing more games anyway, tho yeah depending if the ennemies is already going away at least a bit for a notch it doesn’t help even with other missiles.
Why are you prechaffing all time tho ? Because you can’t really notch after while chaffing with how few you had left but yeah the radar still has issues.
He fired earlier than you, his missile was inbound from about 5km before you had even locked him.
It appears he either hit the notch (based on the DL circle overlay on your radar) or multi-pathed the missile into the river he was overflying. It is impossible to tell without a replay
It doesn’t matter how much chaff your MAW dumped, chaff against PD radars is only effective in a notching position, which you were not in.
This video explains how to attack and defend with Fox-3s quite well.
It’s an habits I got with SARH, it work very well with large amount of chaffs planes, when you enter in “Hot” zones and can’t take care of all that RWR warnings (2 or more tango locked) preventing them to launch AIM-7 for exemple.
Same with flare in close quarter battle.
You can notice I used automatic release of chaff only, keeping my flare, but still can add extra pop by pressing the input between PER drop. The MAW here is maybe too much but the idea was “better to being empty, alive, than full, but dead”
Maybe it’s useless with ARH…
About the video OP has send, thx, I watched it and learned something.
But, what about the fact if we loose DL we can’t get it back? So if a simple chaff is drop during notching (missile’ SRC mode) the missile is lost and even if we keep TWS (sometime hard if multilock) or TRK it can’t be restored? So keeping radar on target is useless in Pitbull if it has already loosed DL before?
I’m glad than the guy did some test and confirm that keeping TRK even when Pitbull is usefull.
Another question about this: stay in TWS is better for multi-targeting for pitbull DL than be hardlock on 1 target only? Because in TWS we can’t know when other multilock are lost… (On the active one)
PS : Sorry if I don’t understood all it was saif but I don’t speak english.
Edit : I just tried a game without PER and MAW and I’m die because of my pilot being out of G (can’t drop chaff/flare anymore). PER or PERMAW can fix that.
