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One thing I can agree with, F-4F ICE is abysmal
Me when I lie:
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Миг-23МЛА:
eh I have a few kills with it
can be used but you have to be very careful
Boo hoo you only have four of the best missile in the game I feel so bad for you
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They’re stupid I guess… nothing like an F-5
It has a radar, radar missiles, ARH missiles, much better low speed flight performance, much higher top speeds, and a better gun. It’s honestly nothing like any F-5 ingame…
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Only all carriers of the 120th have 2-4 more missiles. And the flight characteristics of any 12.3-13.7 are 2-3 times superior to the F4F ICE.
Good luck playing ASB with the cockpit from F4C from the 60s, where you have 0 information about the enemy and his position relative to height, etc
Guys you dont get it, clearly the 3rd gen brick is super competitive!!
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What are you, the Su-27 (J-11A) is weak. With weak P-77 + P73…
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The F/A-18 hasn’t released?
Legacy hornets are FAR from better
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Oh wow, F-4F ICE is only the third worst jet at top tier out of uh, ~30 aircraft or so?
Surely it must mean that it’s competitive as hell.
understatement. Hornets have exceptional AoA and AoA control
Which ones are worse?
Tornado F.3 I’d say, and some people claim J-11 is also worse than the ICE.
The T/W is nominally always above 1:1, the flight data is available to include SEP charts, it has far more available information than both of those fighters and shouldn’t suffer from either of their issues.
It should maintain 40 degrees AoA well and be insane in 1 circle fights as well as have a very good rate. The F-18C with the GE-402 engines will even out-rate the F-16C when loaded with equal fuel weight.
It can also carry up to 10? AMRAAM’s.
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And SU-27 series will become even more garbage. Not even a proper 1 circle fighter in the game. Literally cannot even dogfight anything at top tier already. The F-18 will be the final blow.
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Tornado F3 Late. Yeah I can agree with that. Only tornado Ive ever used in game is the ASSTA1 and I definitely dont want to take that into 13.7 matches even with AMRAAMS attached to it.
J-11 I am mostly ignorant of. I’ve read it has a comparatively poor radar and the worst RWR at top tier. I do see how those two things could make for massive issues. Then it has R77s (I think) and somewhat better flight performance than ICE (Again, I think). Definitely doesnt sound anywhere remotely competitive with Gripens, F15s or F16s
SU-27/J-11 are the worst 13.7s, not competitive at all vs Gripens, F-16s and F-15s
Yes but you’re forgetting the important part, this is gaijin we’re talking about, it’ll be a miracle if they don’t f it up like always haha
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