Do you consider the F15, F16 or Gripen flightmodels to be bad, by any chance?
The gripen was missing like 1/3rd of its thrust for a few weeks.
True, would it maybe be a premium for Sweden possibly?
I don’t see how they’d fuck it up, the modeled all of the other teen series fighters SEP and AoA properties correctly. Most of which due to my reports.
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I think there’d be a riot of a Swedish hornet would be premium where others would be techtree
I’m really hoping they make two versions, one with Sparrow only and one with AMRAAMs, just like they were in real life before ~1992. If not this update, just in general
So where was the f16 for Sweden and Britain when they only had 11.3 aircraft against 12.0 f16/mig 29? By your logic only germany deserves to get treated that way whilst forgetting another similar event has already happened.
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Dear god can we all stop with the incessant "Who has/had it worse " competition?
What we should ALWAYS want is balance across ALL techtrees at EVERY BR.
Im simply reminding them that this isnt the first time its happened depsite them thinking it is. They scrram and cry about it everyday so im just doing it back. The problem is gaijin doesn’t really care about real balance or things like this wouldn’t happen.
“crying back” doesn’t help. Assuming Gaijin “doesn’t care” doesn’t help.
We ought to analyze what can be improved in techtrees and making helpful suggestions.
Yeah but i can do both so meh
And thus, the problem persists
? Its TWR with combat load: 4000kg Internal fuel + 6x AIM-120s & 6x AIM-9s is over
Full fuel + empty = 15363kg.
10x AIM-120s for example [worst case]: 1478.7kg.
Thrust at mach 0.85 = AT LEAST 8400kgf x2, or 16,800kgf.
So with full “BVR” mess that’s 0.9975:1 TWR.
And with a combat fuel load, that becomes 1.06:1 whose time to climb is similar to that of F-16C.
Congrats you’re preaching to the choir. Gonna need to make a forum post or talk to way more than just me.
Third?
Well of the aircraft worse than it for BVR at 13.3 or higher… J-11A, Su-27SM, Baz Meshupar.
In BVR it’s equivalent to JAS39C, Tornado F3 Late, and Mig-29SMT all sharing 4 DL channels and “worse” time to altitude performance than the better aircraft.
And of course F-15C MSIP II and F-15JM are OP. And Mirage 20005F is arguable whether its F-16C or F-15C equivalent.
And of course most of these aircraft are better than F-4F ICE WVR.
If you emphasize WVR, I can see F-4F ICE being 3rd.
If you ignore WVR as ideally you never get that close to enemy aircraft to begin with, it becomes mid while better than some surprising options.
Of course Germany needs an F-15C equivalent as well as Soviets, Britain, China, Italy, Sweden, and Israel irrelevant of how F-4F ICE’s capabilities are against aircraft weaker than the F-15C and Mirage 2000-5F.
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