Remember how the Type 90 had to be up tiered over tanks that where superior in every way but Type 90 had a 4 sec auto loader so it was obviously OP despite a bad round and zero armour? Or how about all the crying about the T-80 autoloader buff? what happened to the “just shoot the weak spot bro” used to defend this thing?
M829 equivalent is not bad, top tier Abrams and Leopard 2 literally start with those and they are some of the easiest vehicles to spade. But can’t beat what Merkavas 4 are getting lol M322 stock like wtf
Shhh, we don’t talk about non-USSR vehicles overperforming.
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It makes no sense.
The 183mm HESH is a shell twice the weight and with more filler and yet it can’t overpressure kill like the 155mm HESH.
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almost like there is an incentive to keep a good selling premium overperforming
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There’s nothing better for sales than adding an overpowered premium vehicle, so the devs won’t touch anything for the time being, at least as long as it sells well.
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You forgot that one of them isn’t premium bro
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lol almost 70% t58 its a baby xD
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It feels like it could quite happily sit at 8.7, higher would be hard to justify with no stab, composite or any sort of rangefinder.
It’s one of those vehicles which is an absolute sod to balance.
It is excellent at killing bmpts though.
Curious as to how the rest of the us 8.3 vehicles compare with their win rates as 8.3 us is very good (m60 aos my beloved)
Its not great at distance, but its easily 9.0 material in any city fight. And 2/3 of the maps have significant city components. Considering other situational tanks like the strv103c sit at 9.0, i could easily see it at 9.0.
Nah but russian bias clearly
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thats the tech tree one played by experienced people. premium one is a far better comparison and its worse than the t58
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Because people don’t take their time to look where the weak points are at most tanks can pen the turret next to the mantle or the mantle it self and take out one-two crew members or the gun breach or even both most tanks have good heat too pen the turret next to the mantle and the mantle itself place the shot good enough it can take out all three. the type of tanks that would suffer would be 100mm and lower especially if they don’t have heat rounds or sufficient penetration but most 7.7-8.7 tanks do
It’s a premium. They don’t care as long as they bait people into buying it…
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Pure fantasy. People know the weak points, but they are small. Much smaller than the chieftan 3/5, which is the best comparable vehicle. The reason its OP is because it has a reload rate that puts it in a league of its own. 3 shots by the time an enemy reloads. And lets be honest, its pretty good at 1-shotting just about anything.
did they really? you are quoting a BR change suggestion thread
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i just want the BMPT to go to 11.0 BUT IT MUST GET APFSDS before that up-teir. and if it moves to 11.3, it must get the ATGM it’s SUPPOSED to have, 11.7/12.0 it should get the extra ERA blocks it can be fitted with (like on the T90M/T80BVM/T72B3)
This thread is about T58.
They said its proposed, but it didnt happend yet.