What are we gonna do about the T-58

A blatantly broken tank at a very low BR. It needs a BR increase badly to at least 8.7 if not 9.0, same with the Turm III

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8.7 sure, 9.0 is not going to happen with a slow unstabilized no armor tank just because it reloads fast

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honestly its shells need debuffed and that’s all, its HESH is absolutely busted and the HEAT is from my experience just a instant overpressure. Its rounds that it uses are absolutly broken imo

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you cant randomly artificially change shell characteristics on a whim

FV4005 has bigger hesh round and it does nothing from what ive heard

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M728 and Centurion mk.5 AVRE has bigger hesh round and it does nothing like the 155mm of the T58.

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yeah why is the T58s the only one that works seems a little op just like the 90MM apcr being the only apcr that can pen angles seems weird

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What?

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Wait for people to realize how easy it is to destroy em.

Before they get decimated because over pressure and a 2.8 sec reload

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2.8 sec reload doesn’t matter when when everything else is faster, usually stabilized, and can 1-shot it quite comfortably.

“Everything is stabilized” at 7.3…

The crew count usually keeps it alive

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I found out that it’s turret armor is pretty easy to pierce through, the main aspect that keep or better saying hand-held T58 as it is now is how short maps are, this heavy tank is incredible at short ranges, I sincerely never seen one performing how it performs in long or medium ranges maps (e.g respectively Fulda and Pradesh).


I don’t think that’s the case. If you spare some time to make a comparison, regarding HESH, the lower the caliber the best it performs. Although I’m taking this out of my head is pretty noticieable when you compare the performance of 165 mm and 183 mm HESH to 105 mm and 120 mm HESH.

Yeah because it isn’t like M103 that relies on AP

Yeah but to me the overpressure on its 2 rounds are insane. It’ll one shot Meece in the track or barrel with HESH because overpressure. And the HEAT has good pen and still kinda acts like HE with better pen in my experiences

we don’t care about the 2.8 sec of reload. we need a fix on the HESH from the others vehicules
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God forbid it ATLEAST be on par in a full downtier.

No not really. Soviet 122mm seems to 1-shot it very consistently and I’ve seen em get blown by VIDARs and PzH 2K. The only munitions that don’t always 1-shot are HEAT and APDS.

What on earth are you talking about?

This is false, I literally ammo racked the thing with HEAT-FS this week

Oh they fixed its ammo not exploding? I guess it’s even worse than I thought.