What are some vehicles you guy's believe should/could get their historical weapon's at this point in time?

CV90105 wasn’t a remodel, that was a model replaced with a different one as to buff the vehicle rather than nerf a premium by removing thermals.
The name also didn’t change, just the subtitle.
Huge false equivalency there.

Mhmmm…
Model was replaced, yes. With a new one to represent a CV90105 with completely different turret.
I guess it is fair to say that name did not change but variant is different
Old CV90105 was CV90105 TML, new CV90105 is CV90105 XC-8

But yes, you kind of said what I wanted in a different way even though you allegedly disagree here
F-4D model would replace F-4C and variant would change.
More potent weapons would also be a big plus and would give it a fighting chance

F-4D would also be an incredibly simple thing to do as well, just give it CM dispensers and new missiles. (Some avionics would have to be renamed as well but they would still perform largely the same) nothing else on the model really has to change unless you really want to get into some super specific sub variants of the F-4D.

You could give it its additional atg ordinance as well but that might be pushing it.

But imo giving the F-4C a rename, some CMs and AIM-9J and 7E would make it absolutely fine where it is at 10.7 currently. It really just makes it on par and competitive with things like the F-8E and 21SMT.

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How about Commander’s Weapon Station’s Thermal Sight Module (TSM), KE-W A2 APFSDS-T round, and ARAT-I ERA for the M1A1 AIM? Give it its Commander Sight that it’s supposed to have. It is equipped with the 2nd-generation Thermal Sight Module (TSM) along with a Display Control Manager (DCM) to view and change its settings. Also ARAT-I would be cool since the Australian Army uses it.

Ammo-wise, I believe they use the KE-W A2 APFSDS-T round.


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I 100% agree. There were Phantoms all be it F4G’s in desert storm in EC and SEAD roles. Historical matchmaking makes absolutely no sense to me. If you want historical, go play Enigmas Cold war server on DCS or something

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I agree the Early and Late is dumb but technically the F14A we have is the early production variants, it has those things that come out right infront of the wings (I honestly forget the name) which were removed on later F14A’s

Most western tanks also have an FCS like that lol. At least the Challengers and Abrams do.

Sounds like you want the old top tier back, F4s with 9J’s and 7E’s against Migs with R60s, I agree tho, id like to see the F4D in the game

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I mean, it’s not a weapon, but rather part of a weapons system, but I would like to see radar linked gyro gun sights to return.

I don’t even know why they got rid of that functionality to begin with.

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F-4D would be ideal “old” 10.7 candidate (don’t know what current BR that would be, 11.3?)
7E-2s are up for debate IMO but 9Js and CMs wouldn’t be an overkill considering that majority of jets have countermeasures at that BR
Another thing to consider is the flight performance which would be identical (at least I think) to F-4C.
I don’t really see downsides to convert F-4C to F-4D

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I want the Rb24J to be removed from the JA-37C(?) & JA-37D because it wasn’t mounted on it in service. ever.

Just give it the Skyflash as a stock missile and maybe the RB 27,

and M163 should go +1 br up

If it got sabots and useful radar then yes, I think it could actually be a really good, and actually unique 8.3 SPAA, unlike the 999,999,999 Gepard clones.

Honestly getting amraams would make a gap for a solid dogfighter in the BR range.

I think it would be better if we got the M163A2 PIVADS which was improved overall, with the Mk. 149 APDS rounds instead of the existing early variant of the M163 receiving it. The PIVADS could be BR 8.3 since the round would give it ~63mm of penetration and increased range.

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That is also a good option, but the M163 should receive some sorta improvement either way as it’s still abit lacking compared to tanks like the ZSUs.

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Removing missiles that make the JA-37C strong… nerfing the Viggen…
How about no.

I agree but I think there’s quite a disparity with the M163 we have in-game. We have the base version used in Vietnam. Advanced ammunition (at least imo) like the MK149 APDS should come with the M163A2 which had some improvements in accuracy/fire control and etc. The base M163 could get moved down a little bit in BR to help it.

From what I can tell the RB 27 was only used on later Drakens (we don’t have the Falcon missile ingame anyways and I don’t think gaijin is planning on adding it anytime soon).
I’ve read that the JA 37s did get RB24Js and only the initial strike variants (AJ 37) weren’t fitted with them.

aand what would this source be that even the national Swedish military aviation museum doesent have?

I have been at the archive and asked the people working there about it, the Rb 24J was only mentioned in the (wait no lol) and J35s.

(A while ago i think i saw something mentioning a J32B variant was equipped with it? not sure so i wont claim it was.)