You know it’ll be a fun game when you load into cloudspam sunset. Unspotted people EVERYWHERE.
2 Likes
I completely agreee and i’d say this should also apply to ground RB maps such as Vietnam and Italy (i always forget the new name), have one of their spawns facing a cliff a few seconds away, and many times there are clouds and if the pilot is distracted he can forget and crash.
Not to mention lately 50% of all matches or more have the “Low Clouds” or “Storm” weather, that makes CAS very difficult, i find it hard to believe 50% of the world is constantly under a roof of clouds, so there is no “realism” argument here, CAS already suffers in high tiers, and there feels like there is even more cloud maps than in low tier, and SPAAs can freely lock through clouds so to them it doesn’t matter.
As for AIR RB, some maps definelly do not mix with clouds, like Rocky Pillars and Mysterious Valley that when there is low clouds, it is almost certain there will be a few crashes.
This might be related to fact that you managed to die 671 times in your 776 Air RB matches. In other words - if you have no problem to die, weather conditions which might be suited to increase your deaths play no role.
This thread deals with clouds/difficult weather either as difficulty increase for the average player (crashes, fog/clouds on the runway) and impact of severe weather conditions on the game play.
Currently just 3 parties benefit from this weather:
- Experienced fighter players (or the usual cloud hiding players) able to use clouds to their advantage
- Noobs getting kills (running by accident into an enemy which did not see him coming) which would be rather unlikely in clear weather
- PvE players which can now ground pound for longer periods as no serious player wants to go low early game to intercept them as he gets swarmed as soon as his marker pops up low.
For everybody (else) who prefers a structured game play based on situational awareness these weather conditions make it way more difficult to enjoy matches.
That a hell of players (me included) manage to crash occasionally whilst dogfighting as a hill/mountain pops out of nowhere on certain maps - and others have trouble with take-offs and landings is not only annoying, it is often altering the outcome of battles. That is also part of the problem.
There is nothing wrong with some cloud matches here and there, but if clear weather became the exception it looks quite reasonable to address this topic.
Off-topic:
Your feedback quoting me (btw explicitly marked by me as off-topic) looks like you need to look up the meaning of “off-topic” and you might consider reading some books. I admit that my assumption that you are able to connect some dots was wrong.
oh sorry that I’m better at ground attacking than dogfighting while not being able to figure out how to use radar-guided missiles till yesterday, ever occur to you that maybe most of those deaths were to other players firing missiles rat me and me not having flares rather than because of clouds? (FYI I fly very low most of the time)
yall have problems with that? the only time I crash into terrain is when I clip a tree or can’t pull out of a dive in time and I have no issues landing in bad weather
It doesn’t even need a switch.
Only things what it need is just remove some weather + time presets.
At the least, these weather conditions should be acceptable.
Noon + Thin Clouds
Noon + Cloudy
Dusk + Cloudy
However… These weathers MUST gone from random battles
Dusk + low clound cover
Dawn + fog
6 Likes
Yeah the first 3 cloud conditions you provided are good.
To be precise I find the problem with clouds to be: some specific maps (valley, rocky pillar etc) have high altitude, but the altitude where clouds appear is a fixed number, so on those maps weather conditions like thunderclouds and low clouds cover appear to be clouds spammed all over the map, sometimes even make the runway, bases, ground targets invisible, and also make multipathing nearly suiciding.
(Your last screenshot where clouds cover the whole runway must be the mystery valley map lmao. It’s so toxic that I have keep it in the ban list)
4 Likes
These all screenshots are Korea map :p
Still waiting they bring back Korea map for 7.3 to 9.0BR jets but, it is offtopic.
It is honestly surprising and depressing at the same time that there are players in the community who are demanding weather conditions like Dusk + low clound cover.
Those weather conditions are literally worse than night battles.
5 Likes
People forget there’s more than just radar-equipped aircraft I feel, and even radar-equipped said radar kind of becomes useless if everyone is flying low for early ones.
2 Likes
I love cloudy maps whenever I’m playing the Belgian F-16A. Not only do I have to fight fox3 with IR missiles almost all the time but now they are completely useless in most matches too. So, the best I can do is to act as bait and hope my team gets spared.
Indeed high risk no reward
so you are struggling to adapt and overcome.
Like MANY others on this thread or most threads for that matter.
At this point, lets just throw some dice, add up the numbers and decide the outcome by that rather than actually partaking lol
Are you going to be like that other guy who claimed you can use echolocation to find a plane flying in circles within a kilometer-tall cloud as an “adaption”?
Tell me, oh wise man of the internet, how would you find someone camping inside this cloud and denying an A point? They have 8x8x1 kilometer of space they can hide within to still affect the objective.
Or sticking to RB:
How do you intend to see the enemy aircraft so that you can actually hit them in these conditions? The red marker doesn’t tell you their attitude and you kind of need that to dogfight and hit someone other than sitting on their tail. And even if you do get to use the red marker… Amazing, playing a WW2/korean war dogfight to click on red nameplates.
1 Like
I get it, you dont want to work, you just want decisive engagements every time with little effort.
You are only thinking of what is good for you with little acknowledgment to others desires or needs, i see it all the time.
Give me an actual answer rather than grandstanding and offering as much substance as a politician doing fund raising.
1 Like
DEAL WITH IT.
or
Play a game where you click a button and win.
“sorry commander, I am denying your request to engage because there is light drizzle, aborting engagement, I prefer engagement methods that are beneficial to both me and my enemy to put us on equal standing rather than utilising what is available to my own benefit depending on my method”
How about refining your methods rather than complaining about bloody clouds like they are some kind of unexpected phenomenon.
"Enemy has 10hp more than me, there is light rain, temp too high, I dont like sun, my dog stepped on a bee. . . . . . "
This literally happened?
Allies abused the fact that clouds travelled with their bomber formations to prevent axis single-engine interceptors from taking off.
Give me a bloody answer or find a sewer to stink up.
You are in this position:
You are contesting an A point, which ranges roughly 8 kilometers north, 8 kilometers east and there’s a 1-2 kilometer thick cloud cover over the entire A point.
You notice that the objective is neither being captured or lost. You dive below the cloud cover to find your opponent.
There’s nobody here.
So you climb through the clouds to search above, knowing you must be under roughly 5 kilometer altitude to affect the capture point.
Nothing.
You dive under the cloud.
Nothing.
You climb over the cloud.
Nothing.
Meanwhile, there’s 1 guy who trimmed their plane to fly in permanent circle at 1.3 kilometers altitude along the circumference of the objective forever.
You spend a good 5-10 minutes looking for them and the objective is about to expire.
How would you find this guy?
1 Like
wtf you doing at 5k if you wanna bomb?
Some self acknowledgment would go a long way.
Another example of the community who expect everything to be in their favour irrespective of their bad decision making.
Fucking tiresome to see this same calibre of obnoxiousness.
Who said anything about bombing?
There’s an air superiority point. It is captured by having an excess of friendly aircraft within the 8x8x5km cube of space.
1 Like
I am wasting my time with people like you. Bombing or not. The problem is you not the bloody weather.