Yeah, fr fr
I’ve never had queue time issues except when teaming up “7-nation army”, meaning a full squad of 4 different nations.
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And even that is a relatively weak argument because the MM is mixed anyway lol
I’ve been pushing for BR 15.0 for awhile now.
I mean, imagine the possibilities.
You’d even be able to fit in smaller, foldered variants of planes with different armaments. Like idk, F-4E would be 11.3, late F-4E like 12.0( when radar rework ofc). And that’s just one example out of many.
They advertise variety so hard anyway, and with such an extended BR range such a thing would allow for just that. ( Not to even mention that a balanced MM like that would also bring in more players, even with the current boring ahh modes)
These new premium planes will be nerfed quickly and their BR will be increased right after a successful sale.
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Still amazes me they didn’t bring ground all the way up to 13.3 like air.
Currently ground only players might think they’re getting a 11.7 (now 12.0) maximum game but in reality they’re in a 12.7 match because ground and air players bring those 12.7 (now 13.0) aircraft into their lineup. There’s nothing you can do about it unless you’re willing to grind the air tree up to top tier as well.
So just increase the BR of ground to match and decompress the rest. So it’s at least fair.
The XP-50, Wyvern, MiG-21S(R-13-300) and SU-11 would like to have a word with you…
F-15E, objectively superior to the F-15C in every single way, yet at the same BR
While at low br you get a 0.4 br increase if your Bf 109 gets a slightly better nose cannon with no other differences
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Wait. Is that still a thing? Why don’t they do it for other vehicles with some load-outs resulting in different br?
How many premiums got wracked? Prime example Harrier.GR1.
It’s a massive pain now ime.
Dogfighting/support:
can’t turn for the life of it, even VIFFing is only really good for one sharp turn
SRAAMs only really good up to 1.2km (1.4km at a stretch) with virtually no side lock capability (weren’t they theoretically able to go for 3km??)
no flares (even through there’s an option for it in cockpit) so you can’t sprint across the map
no chaff so you can’t climb bc a Mig will send a radar missile up your jackpipe
Bombing:
can’t sprint directly to the base because you’ll get shredded by Migs and F111s/F104s
can’t climb because no flares/chaff and you’ll be shredded by radar missiles (even though the harrier is supposed to have a very small radar signature)
Only thing is side climb but you’re often waiting for bases to respawn as inevitably some Migs race to the base first and firebomb it. That does at least mean you’re alive for quite a while and can farm some RP with just one base (and maybe a cheeky A-10 kill from behind) but it’s hardly riveting gameplay.
It really either needs some flares(/chaff), or to go down to 9.0 (which wouldn’t exactly be popular).
They always had their current range, but Flame has a report in to double their range, should be more like 2km. Also, technically should be all-aspect, but that wont happen.
Thats just a modeling bug as its a C&P of the AV-8As cockpit I think
My posts about decompression keep getting locked and it says to use previous threads for discussion, so hopefully, it’s ok to post it here:
A new round of shiny new jets means even more compression, with the BR only moving up 14.0. F-16A and Mig-29s still face 13.7, which is ridiculous, and now 13.0s can fight against the Eurofighter/Rafale/F-15E, which I believe shouldn’t be happening. 13.0s absolutely stomp 12.0s and they shouldn’t face things such as F-4S imo, especially the ones with fox-3s. Making the BR gap smaller to ±0.7 would solve a lot of problems but it isn’t really talked about much.
The rough Idea I have is:
14.7 Eurofighter, F-15E/I, Rafale
14.3 F-15C/J(M), M2K-5F, J-10A
14.0 Su-27SM, J-11A, Gripen C, F-16C/D/AM (i feel like these could be 14.3 as well) 29SMT, JF-17
13.7 AV-8B+, Sea Harrier FA2, F-4F ICE, Tornado F.3 Late, Kfir Block 60(Not sure how it performs but based on its missile kit + AESA + HMD)
13.3 Su-27, J-11, Su-33, F-15A/J, M4K, Gripen A, J-8F, Ja37DI, Mig-29G
13.0 F-14B, F-14 IRAIF
12.7s stay where they are
Of course, this list would be better with BR of 15.0 and above but I don’t think Gaijin is willing to decompress that much in one go (Although they really should).
I have only German and Swedish top tier, so I would appreciate any experiences and opinions with other nations’ jets as well and I’m willing to change the list based on different opinions!
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Yeah mods are being nasty lately.
Also I agree with all your BR recommendations and I have top tier experience in every tree except Italy sweden and israel
I believe that it is an ok short term solution before proper decompression should be done. However, I also think it is a worse solution for the long term, and proper decompression will always be better.
As for your BR suggestions, I’d move the max BR to 15.0, instead of 14.7. The F-4F ICE isn’t really worthy of being a full 1.0 BR from top tier in my opinion, and it should be 1.3 away.
Overall, good suggestion.
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Sea Harrier FA2 and AV-8B+ are about equal to the Viggen DI, with your decompress they would be at 13.3 not 13.7. (they certainly shouldnt be equal to the 13.7s like the F3 Late and ICE and also moves them well out of sight of the top tier stuff like the Typhoon )
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Thank you, I’ve never really come across Amraam harriers much, I thought their kit would make them better than the 37DI.
Sea Harrier FA2 has the same airframe as the earlier Harrier 1s (AV-8A, Harrier Gr1/3, Sea Harrier FRS1, etc) but with a better engine. So it doesnt turn anywhere near as well as the Harrier Gr7 or AV-8B+. Whilst it can carry 4x AMRAAM, that is all it can carry and has no access to IR missiles or even a gun with that config. It holds essentially the same CMs as the Viggen DI (60 CMs + 320 BOL vs 48 LCMs + 320 BOL)
Only major advantage the FA2 really holds over the Viggen is an excellent RWR and a better radar.
AV-8B+ Doesnt have as many limitations, better turn performance being a Harrier 2 and can run IR + Gun + AMRAAM but it is still sub-sonic which does hurt it and it should have half the number of CMs (though with BOL performance, it probably has more relatively speaking due to the amount of BOL needed to defeat anything). I think its radar is about equal to the Viggen D but it does still have the better RWR.
AV-8B+ is tough because it can turn fight well in a 1v1 fight and isnt limited on loadout, but being sub-sonic vs the mach 2 stuff I imagine really sucks, so it would be the top end of the 13.3 bracket, but not quite 13.7.
Ive only played the FA2 and Harrier Gr7 so basing my opinion on the AV-8B+ via those 2 similar airframes
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I see, I agree with you. I also believe 15.0 would be better but because we’ve only seen Gaijin decompress by two steps, I didn’t think they would decompress to 15.0 in one go. Also, may I ask why you think a BR gap of 0.7 is a worse solution for the long term? I do agree that a proper decompression is better than reducing the BR gap though.
Having 4 BR steps in a bracket is better than only having 3. It allows for more fine tuning of vehicle BRs in a single bracket, and it can be more easily balanced overall.
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