Its not about if you cant get something, but about that if it takes 1000 hours and month of 6hr/day within this time to obtain somthing that costs 25$ - its stil P2W as for a 1000hrs you`ll be in huge disadvantage. you pay to win duels against enemies, as they who dont pay play agains you with huge disadvantage, and all described in this post is basically it. Same as selling bushed up sniper in BF5. Or as was with SW:Battlefront 2 where the pack for 60$ gave you a fully operational unit that deletes not payed 1v1, being the same unit but ultimately upgraded day-1.
It is still P2P not P2W
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p2p is unexisting term of whales
He’s saying Chinese players are at a disadvantage playing against him by sharing his server, how is that sinophobic?
He’s also said he doesn’t want WT to be one of those games where players are more segregated by region to minimise ping and thus level the competitive playing field, because he prefers more casual games to more sweaty games. I think you’ve simply misunderstood his argument/he didn’t present it very clearly.
And also for you:
No, because if you have no skill, you will lose also with this vehicles…
And bushes can be earned via WB
“if you have no skill” my ahh. If it was Quake it would work like than, but this game is MUCH more complicated. And there are tens of situations where having 1st day payed crew would save you. Godamn, aced crew WOULD LET YOU SURVIVE FUEL TANK SHOTS and then return-fire. Talking about “no skill”.
via grinding 2 bushes a year, yeah, great. Pay 5$ get 3 within second. Also may dont even have enough WB if you wont buy payed BP. Bushes arent even “progress”, they basically ARE payed advantage.
it’s not Pay2Win. Warbounds are no grinding. If it is for you, you have not understand the game himself.
what a joke. They are only obtained by passing down battle pass. Meaning grinding BP levels with tasks and challenges. Bushes require 20 hard tasks done my god. If its not grinding then war thunder isnt a game. Both tasks and challenges are ONLY avaliable with machines higher than rank 2 so they already require specific actions.
Previously you also only obtained warbonds by completing easy, medum and hard tasks, before the BP was added.
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It is. Buy bushes for BT-5, ruin some child`s day.
IIRC, it is 5 special tasks. Bushes are pretty easy to come by. Hardest part is to open shop level 5. Which means you also get the free premium.
All WB prizes below shop level 5 are free2play and suffice to pay for bushes easily. So that argument is not valid.
Nope.
If You played well enough then You wouldn’t need to spend a lot of time in order to get things.
With his 25k games, bushes or not, he’s going to ruin lobbies no matter what at this BR. But buy a new player bushes and another no bushes, i don’t think there is a big diff at the end of the day.
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Pearnable by playing is not adequate.
A level 0 crew can sustain at most 4.5 Gs and quickly passes out at 6G.
A maxed crew can sustain 6.2G indefinitely.
I have both premium account and a premium plane (pyörremirski).
I need 5000 crew xp to get the maximum g tolerance and stamina.
Yesterday with both: boosters, premium, premium plane and a positive KD match that lasted 1 hour in Air SB EC… i got 390 crew xp.
I need some 15 such games (ergo 15 hours) to be able to fly my pyörre at the same effectiveness as my bf 109 F-4. Over and over i find myself in 1 vs 1 fights where i need to eaae back on the stick to not pass out or take much more passive lines in the fight.
This means i get third partied more often from not ending the fight as quickly or lose scissors and get shot down while doing the exact same tjing with a maxed crew would win me the battle.
Now with just a premium plane/account? That becomes 25 hours not 15.
Without? 50 hours.
50 hours where you are unable to take an aggressive line in a rate fight during a descending spiral or unable to use scissors properly.
You get + 0.1G per crew skill level.
You only start getting parity after investing 3.5 ot 4.0 full levels into G tolerance and expert.
And “well enough” is capped in SB EC.
2500 rp per 15 minutes for a 136% economy bonus plane (meaning 25 crew xp). Multiply accordingly with premium and premium vehicle.
Also funny thing. In TSS tournaments crew skills arent disabled either. Meaning in the de facto competetive 1vs1 mode you might win matches by being able to pull harder than your opponent in the opening merge (wtrti said i have pulled some 11.3G before in the bf 109 F-1 before. Power of an maxed crew baby. Maxed crew and trim)
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So by paying You speed up the process → P2P
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50 hours of spees up (or even id you have premium 25 hours) is insane and ridiculous.
Let us say we both buy the italian Bf 109 F-4 (Hungarian).
Let us say we both put it into a brand new crew slot because we havent played italy before.
Let us say we both have over 70 hours of ezperience flying the german Bf 109 F-4 in SBEC and even some duelling experience.
One of us pays for accelerated crew training to get 5/5 G/stamina and expert and ace then doesnt touch 109s for 10 hours.
The other person flies it 10 hours in an open SBEC set of sessions.
Who do you think will win if we duelled (assuming we are equally skilles at duelling and flying the 109 F-4 in simulator battles)?
the person who has maxed crew.
When i practiced this last weekend, do you know one of the advice my tutor gave me?
I need to pull way harder in the opening as my turn was too wide. (Meaning pull the stick back fully while in a 680 km/h ias bf 109 and maybe even apply trim)
Do you know what that means? G forces. Insane G forces.
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Still it is P2P
Read my edit.
Just a hint, as you may not see this in sim cockpit view, but nowadays flaps deploy only at very low speeds where I doubt you’d be able to pull over 7Gs, but maybe in sim controls it’s doanle somehow? Anyway, F4U4 received a bit of a nerfbat.
No I am not playing with words.
how? you play either squadron battles, tournaments, you can play for objectives, map positioning.
What actual “competitive structure” apart from a specific “ranked” mode is it missing?
That is not the definition of competitive ,what dictionary did you whip that out of.
As per the Oxford dictionary.
Competitive Adjective : B1
Used to describe a situation in which people or organizations compete against each other
E.g competitive games / sports. Where two teams play against one another to see who will win.
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1 most of said games have had major issues in balance for many years, Starcraft being one of them was ridiculously in favour of early unit rushing for the zerg for example.
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2 The games barely changing does not mkae them balanced, dota having not changed does not inherently mean they are balanced, it means they are stale and an established META will be used.
For example if DOTA was balanced then why are there so many posts online to the contrary, as well as patches, nerfs, buffs etc to characters over the span of a decade if not longer.
Competition is promoted on warthunder, you can play EU, you cannot play SA for example I cannot access SA: Side note your specific refernece to “preventing chinese players from being placed on EU servers” is kinda stupid as they’ve always been there, that doesn’t make the game any less competitive does it.
You don’t have to be competing with your region locked continent.
Ranked systems for players was initially suggested but scrapped due to queue times, now SBMM would split the common players from the good ones, but it would not make the game any more or less competitive lol.
Just a caveat you are using your basis for “competitive” on other ranked based games like MOBAs which, or RTS games which were the precursers mostly to MOBAs, which are inherently different games.
Call of duty is competitive, Squad, Hell let loose etc etc, ranked and SBMM have been largely left behind in modern games to stop people getting stuck at areas.
Hell look at predecessor, i last played it 2 years ago, you could not get passed certain areas due to trolls or folks going AFK. that is a 5 man team, warthunder is 16 V 16 which inehrently means you rely on said team far, far more.
if you want the same idea as ranked, play squadron battles.
That is competitive, it’s just pay to win competitivity.
- 1 completely irrelevant to my point and pretty obtuse to post that here.
- 2 marketing now adays is taken far more seriously if you marketed it as a competitive online game, and it didn’t fit into the criteria of it then it is false advertising and they woul dbe sued to death over it.
Don’t worry mate, he claims the definition is what he said, without even citing the dictionary he used.
the fact you are using starcraft or DOTA as metrics for what is “balanced” shows you’ve no idea what you’re on about.
That inherently means you have an advantage? lol I am in spain and get better ping on the NA server than EU.
Hence why you get top 10 going p against tennis players barely ranked in the top 100?
using IRL comparisons for sports to video games is silly, how you gonna put tanks into weight classes for balancing xD
we are well aware of that you clod we are saying why areyou posting this crap here
According to WTRTI I had combat flaps out for the shot (I bled speed down to like 450 km/h).
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