You have made the mistake of assuming these two terms are entirely separate and mutually exclusive.
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hey hey hey this is unfair for those who pay! I mean they bought first class tickets, how dare you tell them to sit in economy class? please respeck people who pay the bills, don’t be ungrateful bro if it weren’t them your freeloading asses wouldn’t be receiving updates.
We need to reward players who pay and give them more privilege bro
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Because they are.
In P2W, player who doesn’t pay is unable to gain access to things that paying player has. In P2P both players have the same access to all things but paying one is going to get them faster.
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That is your definition of P2W. Cambridge Dictionary does not say this. Cambridge Dictionary is also more authoritative on this matter.
5000 SP to get both stamina and G to max.
5000 SP is 500 000 RP in ASB:
Roughly, a 90 minute ASB game gives 10K RP at both props and jets. Plus minus 2-3K and plus minus 20 minutes.
That’s 50 ASB games where you’re significantly inferior to your opponents.
And that’s not counting experting the crew to then grind ace crew. Acing often is on terms of another 500 thousand or even 1 million. Experting on the other hand costs unreasonable amounts of SL to achieve.
That’s 50x90/60= 75 hours of flying until you’re at parity. Another 75 hours if we include acing.
I occasionally get the urge to play nations I’m not maining. When I fly my F4U-4, P-51 cannonstang and the like I can easily do pinwheel turns that in real life would have likely seriously injured my pilot. This is highly unrealistic.
Meanwhile when I say, fly my Bf109 or Yak-9 or I-185, I cannot even execute proper BnZ without blacking out and then flying straight.
50 matches isnt that many by WT player standards, that’s about the time it takes for a new player to figure out a tech trees planes common traits. you’re going to be on high level crews by the time you get to aircraft that really need the crew. You can also reset your stamina by tapping your rudder to pull high G forces for longer negating a lower crew tolerance
50 air sim matches*
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50 matches that each last 90 minutes.
It’s annoying that replays don’t show you blacking out.
I’ve had a spiralling descent with a Bf109K in my P-51D-5 and as I pulled out of it trying to get my guns of him, my pilot blacked out.
Earlier, I was flying my I-185 and blacking out actually made me enter a spin.
who the hell is touching sim before they’ve played enough arcade or realistic to have good crews?
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And as I said, I like to fly nations other than U.S
My american main crew slot:
My german:
My russian:
My jap:
Note for everyone under this thread, Pay To Win here refers to being able to buy combat strength with real money
One does not actually have to “Win” when he has paid.
Progress cannot be used to explain the source of GE and/or GJN. By marketing one may even progress to have everything from nothing but effort, starting with selling a few event vehicles
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You can get GE for free though
I would say ace crews are pay to win, since if two tanks with the same reload rate fire at the same time, the guy with the aced crew outreloads him, and therefore wins.
pay to progress. you can aquire ace status for free. Ive aced vehicles in a week before
The time and currency it takes to do that is what’s unreasonable, and it’s what makes it P2W.
Crew skills are even more P2W since you can pay for a direct and immediate advantage over other players.
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How does this work? If you can ace them without paying, you are right.
Oof thats a lot of points, but at least you can get it for free.
crew slots? there are enough whidout need to get more with GE, unless you play arcade
Backups? I got many of those from the login rewards alone.
Bushes? only at low tier stuff, with thermals those are usless.
Crews? maybe a little, go try see WOT where you have active skills on them and you cant play whidout.
Lots of valid points (bushes and crew slots being the most accurate), though you already got the usual lap dogs twisting your points to justify some pretty questionable practices.
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