I confess i dont know…i like WW2 tanks, and even in those i am not an expert (but i read a lot).
BUT…i see topics asking for Chali to be improved…but also for M1, Leopard, Russian, etc…
I am not saying you are wrong…i dont know…i am pretty sure that if chali was improved as you suggest someone would complain that it was too strong, unreal or unbalanced and something else (opposing tanks or chali BR) had to be changed to compensate.
I personally dont agree with everything in WW2 tanks (far from it), but i gave up on trying to understand what the playerbase wants. More often than not (not saying it is your case), players that claim to be the voice of the majority really just want some vehicle they like/hate to be improved/nerfed.
In the end of the day…nobody is 100% sure on the real stats and best BR for each vehicle…hell…even IRL and in lots of real battles, actual military experts made huge mistakes on the relative merits of their weapons…
MY POINT. There is no “universal” playerbase…not even a solid majority on most issues…just a lot of different opinions…
I’ve always made the comment that the seller makes the market, so if they’re lowering thier prices it’s not necessarily a sign that the market is dropping, it can just be that those who want to sell are lowering thier prices because they need to sell them.
It’d only take a few collectors to make the prices all drop. If they’re selling their set, then they would likely try sell all sets.
It’s the purchase price you should be looking at even and the rate of sale of those in the past 6-12 months (Which should be even 24 to recognize the cycle that new year brings because it’ll drop at certain times related to season and festive times.)
We’ve just had a sale and new coupons/Vehicles will be hitting the market soon. Some vehicles on market currently usually dip around those times as people want GJN Coin to buy new stuff.
Friend, I understand you a little, I’ve been playing WT for a very long time, and to make you understand I’m attaching a photo that shows you what I used the first time to install war thunder. Sometimes I stopped for periods, because like you I saw all the rottenness within the project, I saw how Gaijin obviously being a company put profit before fun for the community, if the 2 things coincided then they made money from it both, otherwise gaijin must always make money first, because it is a company and this is a product, pay to progress, if you want to do it faster, otherwise you grind and in years of grinding you will make it, obviously there are people above all the new generations who they don’t care about propeller planes or WW2 tanks, they want modern vehicles, and to link me back to the previous sentence, gaijin exploits this to make money (because they are a company and this is a product as I was saying, for us it is a game, for them it’s an end to a means) and people who want the modern means have a way to get there faster. I agree with you that in this way you lose all that preparatory part of the energy combat that occurs with propeller-driven aircraft, or all that part of knowing where to shoot at each tank because each tank was different as with the WWII tanks, learning to understand the gun elevation, the distance, the projectile to use and the best point, using tactics efficiently because you had tanks that weren’t that fast anyway, I understand your frustration, but I also understand that war thunder it’s a broad game, and as such you have to find your oasis of happiness, comfort zone, where you like to play and feel comfortable playing, if you have friends to do it with it’s even better, but believe me don’t waste a second of your life to think of changing things by shouting in the forum, because they won’t listen to you anyway, and you will inevitably only give bread to the white knights who will immediately rush to say that WT is a perfect game and that it’s only you who has no skill. WT is not perfect, you will never be, but it has its positive sides, and comfort zones for anyone, it’s up to you to understand what this area is and make the most of it, and if the game dies one day then so be it.
Peace and love from an old gamer
Companies making money don’t “Burn Down”.
Products and services making money do not “Die in 2 - 4 years”
I don’t see anything constructive or even a remotely cogent argument in the entire thread. No one is either making you play the game or spend money, you have a choice. Honestly, no offense but it sounds like you want something for nothing. If you don’t want to play the game, then don’t - But this really is just a ranting sh*t-post sorry.
fair, but the problem is, the player base finds evidence to prove tanks aren’t real, or have incorrect stats on war thunder(not through leaked documents, leaking documents never helps), and yet there is nothing done about it.
An example I can think of is the merkava’s, the player base found there weight and armor is incorrect, yet to this day it remains to be unchanged.
Another example is the Ho-ri Production, which isn’t even a real vehicle, and its really good too, giving an unfair disadvantage to vehicles that face it, after all war thunder is based on real vehicles, not fake ones.
I feel like a rework on the system of bug reports on vehicles to me makes sense. The thing is even though we may not 100% know the real stats and best br for each vehicle, it would make sense to use to community to help correct and improve the game.
As for BR, br can be changed based on how good the veichle is at that br, if the vehicle is too good than raise the br, if its to bad than lower it, isn’t that what war thunder does rn or am I wrong?
Problem is, you’re adding next to nothing for WW2 enthusiasts. Pay2win Tigers, some prototype AAA, you break maps as much as you fix them.
No new gamemodes.
ULQ is still broken.
Air RB has not seen any significant changes since like 2014, other than AF AAA and match time. But the core gameplay is the same and pretty damn repetitive at this point, absolutely lacking any variety.
It’s OK if we consider WW2 just an obstacle to grind through. But soon even top tier may get stale as you’ve basically already added all major missile types. Yeah, you can change this and that, but there won’t be any revolution any time soon most likely.
I mean no, it serves its purpose fine and isnt an issue. New tiger packs are honestly great though, while they may be copypaste they give a clear lineup.
AFAIK this is done and was done in the past. Gaijin may be a bit sceptical of player provided info…not sure who is right on this, i assume it varies with each iteration.
This is also my opinion on several vehicles…i never like when a vehicle that i never knew existed suddenly appears everywhere…or on the “wrong” nation…
Yes, this is how it works…all BR changes are supposedly based on vehicle performance in game.
AGAIN…not all players agree with the points above…saw many skewed requests for “historical” changes, players that like prototypes and players that want BRs to be what they think should be, no matter what the real performance is.
I believe game has lots of room for improvment, and has things that are not as i would like them…but i don’t believe that the “player base” can get to any kind of agreement on any of these.
As to hearing the community…i believe this is what we are doing right now… :)
