War Thunder in General, a rant

I would add removing the lock when you early leave. No gaijin, I won’t fight a tank that is 20 years more advanced than mine, thank you.

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More like 40y down at 2.3 :)

God no I wouldn’t take VIDAR over T95E1, that has an amazing round, armor, good turret…
VIDAR can’t compete with T95E1’s lolpen capability.

Tldr move it up to 8.7 and everyone is happy

No one’s happy.*

*Literally only AlvisWisla is unhappy and everyone is happy because of that

Move it to 8.7, see how well it is doing, and change it if it needs to be changed.

It wouldn’t hurt if it wasn’t the best for a couple months.

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Weird of you to imply I’m everyone.

VIDAR is not OP, this is painfully obvious.
Anyone would’ve provided stats to back up their claims if it was OP, but they don’t cause it’s not.

Agreed. From what I have heard it would do fine there, and sweden has room to move both up and down from there if needed (8.0 and 9.3).

90mm steel constructed APFSDS hardly counts as an amazing round, especially saddled with the much longer than average reload and lack of stabilizer. Most 8.3 and some 8.0s have better rounds, while also having faster reloads and even full stabilizers on some.

It has enough armor to bounce poorly aimed shots, but anything even remotely aimed well will get through. Even M82 shot can pen the turret cheeks at close range. HEAT mostly just lolpens it.

Sure do love a turret with not one but two flat weakspots that get exposed before the gun does when hulldown, meaning even the weakest APHE you can see in a downtier can kill you easily before you can even get the gun on target.

It’s got good gun handling, and has good gun depression angles. That’s about all the positives I can give the turret.

The stats none of us have because Gaijin refuses to release them?

Because here’s the stats we do have:

Considering it’s a well regarded premium, and a somewhat non-meta vehicle, those are pretty damn good stats. Especially in arcade, which I didn’t expect.

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Oh damn, thats… bonkers in AB. Probably comes down to good zoom and the LRF, though I suspect it isnt as stupid as the stats may show.

Most people that play it in AB will probably be actually competent tbh.

I was implying that everyone was happy because you were unhappy -_-

T-55A and Chieftain have significantly worse rounds than T95E1, T-55A’s round is worse than Chieftain’s too.

Thunderskill is anecdotal, and doesn’t prove your claims.
You have to compare VIDAR stats to other tank stats within the same player profile.
If it’s OP, like Jagdpanzer, the KDR will be significantly higher than its compatriots on a profile.

The Chieftain’s round is borderline identical at close range, and far better at long range. Not to mention a much higher caliber and over twice the weight, meaning it does more damage on penetration and has a shorter reload despite that.

It does indeed outperform 3BM25, the second worst high caliber APFSDS round in the game. Woo.

Meanwhile, it’s up at it’s own tier it’s up against DM23 (M48A2C G2), M111 (Oliphant Mk1, Magach 5 at 8.0), Type 83 (ZTZ59D1) and OFL 105 F3 (AMX-10RC), all of which outperform it in penetration and damage, all of which outreload it, and half of which are stabilized.

And it’s not even that good compared to the rounds it beats, I’d take almost any APDS round at the tier over it due to the faster reload.

laughs in m/61 machinegun in the 103

People still rant about vidar…

that thang is not as ultimate killing machine as you think.

Are you sure everyone is happy? the owner will not be happy I’m pretty sure about it lol and they are VIP because they pay, of course as a businessman, VIP’s feeling is more important.

Yep. I didn’t bought it just to be nerfed due to outcry on forums. Especially if it doesn’t cause even quarter of problems that whiners are crying it does

Absolutely bro, I mean if you have the IS-6 then you wouldn’t want it to end up at 7.7, it literally get smacked harder than Tiger 2 facing 7.7s, I mean it currently fights things like M48 and T-55M with DM23 which is a viable ammunition at 9.3, the buyers must have felt like a sucker I bet, you know what? everybody is a communist when they are poor.

I mean

IS6 is a great counter for vidar - it bounces my HE with no DMG, i’ve found only small area of LFP that can eat vidar HE reliably. In battle it is always a hard enemy.

BUT you don’t see me creating 2137 different topics with whines to nerf is6.

Community should grow a pair