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yes, the Supermarine spiteful was an attempt to design a sucessor to the spitfire but it didn’t get very successful

however the “Spitfire” MK 22 and MK 24 were Supermarine’s attempt at combining the sucess of the Spitfire with the better design of the Spiteful

thus both used the Griffon engine, both got a changed wing shape to be more closely like the Liminar one of the Spiteful and Some MK 22 and all MK 24 got the tail of the Spiteful

the MK 24 was a Full Aerodynamic redesign compared to earlier spitfires and the only reason why it was called spitfire and not Spiteful in active service was because of the good reputation of the spitfire

it’s the same reason as why the AiM-9X is still called sidewinder even tho it shares about nothing with the rest of the Sidewinder family

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  • Spiteful wasn’t accepted into service because it was far too late to meet the war and didn’t offer significant benefits over Mk.21/22 before the RAF was more interested in Jets. Same reason the Hawker Fury didn’t replace the Tempests in service, there was nothing massively wrong with either design.
  • The only thing Mk.22/24 used from Spiteful was the enlarged tail section, Spiteful had a completely different fuselage and wing design. Mk.22 wings were an improvement over the Spitfires E wing, mostly strengthening and standardising the wings for 4 20mm cannons.
  • Griffon engines were being used in Spitfires since the Mk XII in mid 42, several months prior to Spitefuls requirement order in late 42 iirc.
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Flying metal pieces are more effective, but far more dangerous when infantry is around.

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" One step forward, two steps back" is their philosophy when adding positive things

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The Squadron Me-262 is in a Sorry State. It cannot engage light targets, on Rooikats I consistently get yellow wheels and transmission. Is this appropirate Damage for 4x30mm+2x20mm Armament!?

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it appropriate for HE damage
Are you using the right ammo belts?

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Should not matter against light ground vehicles tbh

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im sorry but yes it should for 30mm HE rounds, after all the lights are still somewhat armored

if you want damage use the AP belts for the MK 103s

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The Char 2C is extremely overtiered. Like, come on, the T-35 is 1.3 if I remember correctly.

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T-35 arguably has worse armament and has worse armor

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It’s got 2 BT-5 turrets, and way more armament available, while the 2C has a single WWI 75 mm gun. How can that justify a 1.0 difference in BR?

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Said 45mms are more difficult to use considering their positioning.
The 75mm is also substantially more powerful than the 45.
I think the tanks are fairly balanced, though Char 2C could probably drop by 0.3

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So just because of the “gun positioning” you’re justifying that the T-35 sits where it’s at currently. What about the Archer with its terrible gun layout then?

I believe the 2C could perfectly sit at 1.7, because right now it can easily face T-34s in a full uptier, which makes the tank useless.

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Balance shouldn’t be and isn’t based on down- or uptiers. It is based on player statistics and where the a vehicle would appropriately sit at.

I don’t see an issue with T-35 sitting where it’s at, same goes for Archer.

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Well then, I believe a huge, slow target, with a WWI 75 mm gun that has low muzzle velocity and questionable penetration (in some cases) is really hard to play against vehicles that have way better guns, armor and mobility, such as the T-34 or the Pz.IV F2/G.

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Such is the case with practically every heavy tank, it’s nothing new.
That is why it is always advised to create diverse lineups: having vehicles that are suitable for multiple situation.
At the BR the 2C sits at it’s a good vehicle, hence it doesn’t need to be moved.

I’ll leave the convo here as to not clutter the topic.

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I have both, Char 2 is really fine at the BR

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APHE is comically overperforming and needs to be realistically nerfed again. Those complaining are scared that they’ll need to learn where to aim and can no longer 1 shot crews by hitting the rear of the crew compartment miles away from any vitals.

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Saying ‘‘skill issue’’ in this forum should get you permamently banned and your game account progress permamently deleted. And you should be forced to play with the m22 for the rest of your life.

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I don’t sympathize with Nazi Germany nor do I condone their actions but seeing crosses or other symbols instead of the Swastika it’s just immersion breaking.

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