Fire & Ice added 5 unique Finnish vehicles into War Thunder.
T-26E, Leopard 2A6NL [later fixed to Finland], T-72M1, Vickers MkE, BT-42.
& currently Finland is half to majority unique vehicles.
Sweden remains the only tech tree with that specific T-72M1.
& Italy got the German T-72M1 for its tech tree as a Hungarian one.
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Okay, we seem to have a deferent definition of copy and paste.
To me if there isn’t a major difference with the vehicle, its copy paste.
For me, the only non copy paste vehicles would be the vickers tank and the BT 42.
depends on your definition again.
Also does not change much when the original statement of yours refers to updates, not the state of the game.
But if you have a different definition of copy and paste a discussion about this might be senseless.
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Y’know, if historical MM (axis vs allies) came back I wouldn’t mind most of your suggestion threads about lend lease.
Yeah yeah, I meant the Historical MM of realistic.
Nations that fought next to each other should never face one another.
There are problems with opposing nations being in the same TT ofc (ROC and PROC), Sweden and Finland (Sweden was neutral while Finland saw action in WW)
Or simply Germany after being split.
larp larp larp sahur
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Oh you mean teamkill simulator because that is all it is when I play it, spawn in, get teamkilled, level repeat. I will never touch sim again. We need realistic matchmaking in tank rb.
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Just T+4+2 bro
Long-time player here. Beta tester since 2012
You’re absolutely right about community power, but there’s a gap worth acknowledging. These conversations have been happening in closed squadron Discord servers for years, discussed seriously among veteran players. The problem is: most people actually buying premium content are new players who don’t read forums, don’t watch creator videos, and don’t know about the economy drama or copy-paste patterns.
Meanwhile, War Thunder’s publicity campaigns online have gotten increasingly aggressive. New players see flashy ads for cool vehicles, buy them, never see the critical discussion, and get overwhelmed for a month after rage quitting because they don’t understand the game mechanics. They fund the slop then leave before they’d ever learn why it’s a problem.
This doesn’t excuse Gaijin’s choices, but it does explain why the wallet signal gets mixed. The people seeing the criticism aren’t always the people spending. That’s a harder problem to solve than just “buy quality, don’t buy slop.” Gaijin has built a system that profits from player churn, not retention
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Spoiler
ignoring imightbmantis needing attention and killing completely the topic by simply tellin people to essentially be sent to the super broken mode of simulator
gaijin speaks in money, which means the wallet and where one opens it will determine how the game goes, gaijin neglects WW2 suggestions or balance because premium on those part don’t make as much profit as those 70$ scams at the store front.
Let’s look at the french yak-3, it was very common and was very abused wasn’t it? It sells for 1600 eagles or $8.58 converted.
how many frenchies you need to sell to surpass 1 top tier (oh sorry, not top tier since it is 1 BR step below it whoops!) premium sale
Well the preorder F-14D is $79.99, the fattest price of all and the lowest price for a preorder currently is the J22 and M60 preorders at $59.99.
now do basic math and look how much work the yak-3 needs to make in order to surpass the sale of 1 pack/preorder.
Which of these you actually see more in-battle? There stupid packs with the price of AAA titles are only working because 3-4 people who eat them up nullify the opinion of 28-37 people who went for the yak-3.
I’m pretty sure this is an AI summary of the video made by thecodbyman. But I do agree with it.
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I am presonally not spending another cent on the game until it improves
It is the only way chance can happen
you can spend money, just not on bulls-
Its like training a dog, give it the treat when it behaves well.
If you never give treats it will never learn.
If you give it too much threats, even when misbehaving, it will go downhill.
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I was going to buy the chinsese su30 on sale but after seeing what’s going on recently…
The final nail in the coffin was the removal of helicopter MITL which means that russia is still going to dominate top tier
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In my humble opinion, as a player of a few years: Fun and business.
It’s a very good game (generally speaking), and Gaijin is a company. They have what we need, and we “pay” for their service. What I consider a minor problem is that Gaijin is heading down the wrong path of: Work less, earn more, sadly.
But THANK YOU FOR EXISTING WARTHUNDER
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Not to mention that blacklisting someone doesn’t even prevent them from joining your matches…
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For me it was the brutal changes they added to the Nuclear Escalation game mode. They just had to make it 10x harder to get the nuclear bombers for yourself, never fixed the AA problem, reward killing ground targets got increased but what can you do when they shoot down all your armament? When the game mode originally came out, sure it had its problems. But it was something new and exciting, being able to lob nukes over the enemy’s airfield and going on kamikaze missions with them. But they just never addressed the problems and then made horrible changes they could have reverted easily. But I hope that Gaijin sees the problem and addresses it.
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It`s really interesting to see the sides of the debate.
There’s one side , that notices that the game is heading downhill , and recognize the need for a change.
Then there are the Uninformed / attention seekers. A big influx of new people who have no idea about the state of the game keep it fueled, while old players are generally unheard. Then there are also those that outright deny any wrongdoing on behalf of gaijin. I’ve seen two or three threads on this topic, and in each one certain users were shaming others for rather childish reasons.
As always, nothing ever happens, we will go unheard once again.
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