Visibility % Stat. Something that has been bugging me for years

Well, that would be fine if they didn’t inject themselves into the general subsection or the subsections of the other gamemodes.

The game does not revolve around them. Demonstrably so.

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Why are you so caught up with players ‘overstepping’ right now Der?

I passed this knowledge on the game chat to have people in there constantly deride me merely mentioning that there’s a true formula and method to point out wih the old ‘rendering tanks’ issue.

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Hmm, interesting data. I do remember being able to queue in a premium leopard 1 decently easy enough. Never tried queuing with my 11.7 lineup however.
While its outside the scope of the data, it would be useful to see the br ranges at play, since there is most definitely a dropoff of queues the further you up in br for air arcade. Long queue times at even just 5.0ish is one of the primary reasons why i switched off air arcade.

Right now?

I always am.

And the reason is simple, if you use the forums as Feedback from the players, this feedback becomes useless thanks to them.

Because if you have an arcade problem and post in the arcade section and the very same thing causes no issue in RB. Then you will find RB players loudly proclaiming the issue doesn’t exist (even though they are in the arcade section). From the view of an external reader that it isn’t clear whether the issue exists in AB or not, since to an external reader those RB players disagreeing appear as AB players since it’s the arcade subsection.

The same thing in the general section, just go into the section and count the threads that should belong into the RB section, how many are there 30% of the general threads actually not being about general topics?
And it usually aren’t the AB or SB players doing it. It’s almost exclusively RB players.

It’s a section for universal topics, those that are regardless of gamemode. Like discussions about research, tech trees and so on. And there is an RB section, they choose to post their threads in general.

I don’t know if it is incompetence and they don’t check the section they are in when they reply.
Or if it is arrogance, that their mode is the most important, which is why the other modes definately need to know the situation of RB or that their issues are soooo important that it should be adressed as a general issue.

I don’t know but this happens to a degree that it ruins discussions of the other modes. And it is usually from RB players.

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None of this applies to this thread though as ALL the mechanics in this thread applies to ALL modes.

No matter what people try and make out ‘doesn’t matter’.

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It applies to the whole game, but does not impact RB as much so RB players come here without even realizing that this is the Arcade Battle section and say this is not a problem because it does not affect RB while skipping the whole thread and then get defensive when called out on their crap

Nah, it does.

Doesn’t matter if the thread is in the arcade section, if I know about the stat and what it genuinely does, then you’re gatekeeping to try say I shouldn’t be posting here.

Common misconception is that the minimap rendering is the be-all and end-all of it, which that’s nonsense, as you can see a player without having them on the minimap in AB. Keen vision ties into this as well, and thus it comes back to a formula, which all of the stats, and skills apply everywhere.

Commonly people only think that it’s limited, and choose to make out that certain things don’t apply, which is wrong in many cases.

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I am not gatekeeping, I only asked for some offtopic discussions to be discussed elsewhere. My problem is with people like sneedsellsfeed trying to gatekeep arcade threads because their world revolves around them

Der is gatekeeping as he gets upset at people commenting in a few threads with a ‘stay in your lane’ mentality.

The fact is Sneed is wrong on the first posts, so that’s established.

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If Sneed was a ship he’d spray water on fishing boats from other countries.

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Now that’s edgy xD

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You are delibrately leaving out the context of my post. Read the entire reply chain and look at the comment of the RB player that started it. That’s what i responded to.

I never at any point replied to a comment about the mechanics.

And while a lot do work the same in every mode, the resulting effect may be very different.
We are talking about ground battles, and ground vehicles are mechanically pretty much the same in all modes.

I did respond to a chain if replies that started with a RB player pretty much stating that RB is better.

Hell i even said what explicit behaviour of RB players is the problem: Taking an AB issue in an AB thread and make it about RB or acting like an RB issue is an issue for everyone. You showed none of that behaviour and still think i was adressing you. Why? That makes no sense. It’s ok for a RB main, to respond in an AB thread as long as his post is about AB… At no point did i say anything against that.
If you think my post was adressing you, then that is a you problem.

I did at no point respond to your little explanation about the mechanics, i was never adressing you. I have no idea why you think you were meant by this and it confuses me.

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Nope i did not. I said certain behaviour of RB ppayers is a problem. As long as you don’t exhibit those behaviours everything is fine.

Since you seem to have problems with the differentiation:

“RB players should not take general threads or threads of other gamemodes and make them about RB.”

Is not.the same statement as:

“RB players are not allowed to talk about AB in an AB thread.”

I thought this was obvious but sadly this had to be spelled out.

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Thing is, this isn’t the first thread where you’ve put out this scenario, and makin out GRB players come into GAB threads to have a statement made.

The mode we play has nothing to do with the points made in many instances, and are able to help players realise that often their issue is there for a reason.

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Sure, but i always do that when they make take an issue and make it all about RB outside the RB section.

I already stated why i do this. As often they do not flag their posts to be about RB, so from an outside perspective it gives the wrong impression. Making the forum sections useless.

I also do that on polls about mechanics, since polls are useless if you cannot pin down the gamemode they apply to.

As i stated before it makes the discussion useless, since you can no longer pin them to the gamemode to apply any results from them. Or they drown out legitimate general issues. I already stated that outright.

I agree, my.post was never about which mode you play. My post was about taking issues from other modes and making them about RB. Which is something totally different than disregarding a statement because it was made by a rb player.

Do you realize there is a difference between:

  1. Taking a thread not made for RB and making it all about RB.

And

  1. Talking about AB in an AB thread as an AB player.

??? Do you?

So to make it simple:

I don’t want to stop RB players from talking in AB threads.

I want to stop players to talk about RB in AB threads.

I don’t know how to make the difference any clearer.

If there was only an option to create topic regarding the same thing but in different gamemode in proper section… NAH

It is better to go to the section about the mode You don’t play, talk there about Your experience (from the mode that is not being talked about here), then throw insults and flag posts so another topic can be thrown into the bin.

I ksan as long as they talk about the gamemode, the thread is about, or keep it general in the general section, than that is all fine and dandy.

But just keep it on the issue… It’s exhausting. And it isn’t gatekeeping since noone wnats to prevent you to talk about the topic. We just don’t want to talk about RB here (of course comparing AB to RB is fine, the problem is people acting like the thread is about RB).

But the number of times RB players go into threads acting like they are about RB when they aren’t in the RB section is becoming problem.

I think it is obvious that i am trying to make a point whenever RB players make threads all about RB that weren’t in the correct section. But i think i have yet to be flagged for it.

There should be bans for it or mods changing it as in old forum but ye… we have what we have.

You won’t win with some people.

Yeah but even in the old forum it happened a lot.

But with the new forum it’s a desaster.
Just count the threads made about

-RB (stuff about spwanpoint costs, which are a RB thing for example)

-CAS balance (the balance is very different in each mode, so acting like the RB experience is true all the time is misleading at best)

It’s a long list those two came to my head immidiately. It also happens with the air rb players, when they go to the machinery of war section acting like the turning performance of a plane is wrong. Even though the instructors AoA is limited -.-

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The Strela has a much lower visibility (65%) compared to the Ocelot (86%) despite being almost 4 times its size.

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