Vehicles that are in an unbalanced battle ratio

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Turm III 8.3 (stabilized gun, 350mm pen apds, really good speed,really good mobility, good survivality, 30mm coaxial gun, should be 8.7 {if they dont shoot to the left zone of the turret almost all the shots overpen}).

T-55A 8.3 (stabilized gun,apfsds,good anti air capability,low profile,good armour) I use it even at 9.0 and still does a nice work, could be a 8.7 for sure.

Type69 8.0 ( t55a but at 8.0 and with a lrf makes sense lol) should be 8.7

Xm800t,fox (idk what br would be good for these tanks tbh, they still does the work right at top tier) any suggestions?

Object 685 8.7 (lrf, low profile, apfsds, really good heat fs, autoloader of 6s) idk, it is really op for 8.7 but i think that if u put it at 9.0 it would be good until u get a 10.0 uptier.

Object 906 8.0 (4s reload, extremely good apcbc, really good heatfs) it would fit good in 8.3

Gepard (faster xm246 with a lil bit lower survability) could be 8.7 tbh, anyway, all the AAA’s should just be AAA, not anti everything, i can remember when the falcon had the apds, it was a nightmare. Anyway, if they remove AP and APDS from the gepard it would be nice at 8.3,also the xm246 and all the others AAA’s of those br.

Sheridan 8.0 (ngl, almost no one use the sheridan because it is almost a trash tank like it was irl, bad heat, bad atgm, bad armour, big profile,yep, a trash tank) could be a lil bit better at 7.7 since even a tiger II outperforms the sheridan.

T-72 9.3 ( u have a tank with lrf, extremely good armour, low profile, .50 cal,125mm gun, 440mm pen apfsds, autoloader, yep, it outperform every 9.3 mbt) would be good at 9.7 ngl, in a downtier the t72 is a behemot, just think u are a m60 (AOS) if u shoot the t72 with the heat fs your shot will do almost anything, if u shoot with the apds u wont be able to kill it, but he will delete u with a single shot anywhere.

Pzh2000 7.7 ( we all know why it should be 8.0)

I think that would be all, maybe im missing a tank or two, let me know what do u guys think ^^

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you should include planes too
Looking at you, premium flankers

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Sorry sir,im a tank main, idk about planes tbh, i just know that the yak9 is op but because i use it and i get a lot of kills with it ( i suck at ARB ngl,u can see that on my stats) all the yak family is just really but really good

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Since the massive turret traverse speed nerf, its fine. boarderline over BRed

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Hmm,idk, the british 30mm for some reason is really powerful in game, also, the fox is a tank for hide and change your position really fast , even after the nerf, i think that 8.3 would be nice for the fox, and idk what to say about the xm800t, it performs really well even at top tier. I think that the real problem with these full automatic guns is that the damage is really bad made in game, i remember an xm800t penetrated my T55A through the chassis frontally as if nothing happened; the ammunition ricocheted off my chassis, then off my machine gun, and then hit my ammunition directly.

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I bet that was a long time ago, the beautiful xm has been nerfed to hell

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Naaaah, i use it at 11.7 and still does a good work, just be a rat with it, as i said, the damage from autocannons in War Thunder is simply broken,they do some weird things to pen the 90% of the times

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Thats great, I still want 6.7 to 7.0 spaa

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Xm800t in 6.7???! Ayoo, that would be actually really op, tbh, the gun wouldnt perform really good on that br due to the armour of the tanks in that br, but it would be anoying as hell because it can still destroy your engine,your gun and your tracks really easy

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BO 105 PAH-1 to 9.0 anyone?

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Isnt that a heli? Wich atgm does it have?

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HOT-1 with 4km range, no Thermal, no Gun (If you take the HOT and also no CMs)
Has a Zoom of 3.2x - 10.8x

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Hmm,yep it could be at 9.0 tbh hot1 does a great damage, but just 4km is insanely bad tbh

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Its just “Bruh” at 8.3 you get the UH-1D with the AGM-22, 600mm Pen and a Max range of 3.5km, and fof 500m more range + a RWR you get a +1 BR increase lmao

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Ngl, UH1 B and UH1 C stock grind is really painfull… While other nations like russia gets stock atgm u gotta grind a lot to get the atgm’s with EEUU helis,idk why is that but when u get the atgm’s they are really good helis tbh, i think that ah1g should be 7.7 due to the bad performance and no atgm’s at 8.0

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It’s probably better at 8.7 since everything is lighter, getting a downier and facing IS-6’s is scary

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Thats a good point, but the problem is that, in a lower br it is really anoying, aaaand in a high tier is deadly

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i wonder if there’s a single person in the world that doesn’t think the Turm should go up in BR.

hell naw it’s ok at 8.3, the 9.0 version has APS, improved armor, better engine and more shells, which compensates the fact of it being 0.7 BR higher. T-55A shouldn’t go to 8.7 at all.

i mean, all chinese tanks should go up in BR.
just look at ZBD86 with a tandem ATGM at 8.0, or ZTS63 with APFSDS and LRF at 7.7.

remove them, solid and valid answer.

hell naw, light tank at 8.7 fairly facing fully stabilized tanks, and T58.

good APCBC? bro this ain’t 6.7 facing Tiger IIs with 185mm of armor😭
it also uses HEAT-FS, everybody knows how trash HEAT-FS is no matter the BR, and it’s a light tank which can be penetrated by .50 cals frontally through the driver’s port.

all SPAA that use 30/35mm cannons should go up in BR, since nobody uses them for destroying planes.
that or go back to my silly idea of limiting their mobility so they can’t leave their spawn, which wouldn’t be a problem since an Itpsv Leopard can pen my goddamn T-62M-1’s turret frontally with a 58mm AP bullet.

bad reload too, it could go down.

skill issue, just aim for the LFP/driver’s port, that are the universal weakspots for T series from 64 to 90.
btw Leopard 1A5 is way better (more depression, better mobility and acceleration, 1 Gen thermals and better APFSDS).

i honestly use it at 8.0 with the Leopard I and it does good, so i agree.

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and if u’re going to say i’m a russian blind egoist cuz i don’t want russian tanks to go up in BR, here are my recomendations about what russian tanks should go up in BR (with 1 exception):
T-44-100 7.0 → 7.3
ZSU-57-2 7.0 → 7.3
BTR-82AT 9.0 → 9.3
BMPT 11.3 → 12.0
Pantsir-S1 12.0 → 12.7
2S38 10.7 → 11.0
BMPT-72 11.3 → 11.0 (the exception)
BMP-2M 10.3 → 10.7

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Its a 9.0 tank at 8.3 because most german mains suck. Its overall K/D is still good because slightly over average players can shred the universe apart with it.

Things with APFSDS of M111 equal shouldnt be below 8.7, that includes olifant mk1 as its worse overall other than also getting a LRF. both to 8.7.

much worse APFSDS than the T55A for a LRF, damn good deal, i agree with 8.7

working my way to XM800T to know from personal use but the fox after its turret nerf and gearbox nerf (gears are taller so it cant get over 45mph most the time) really doesnt offer anything the scimitar cant, especially with scimitars elevation and armour buffs.

putting it down to 7.7 again would be fine really, even with the people that still have a massive hate stiff for it.

XM800T from facing it seems liek a 9.0 easy. Ill see in a couple weeks as im getting close to it now.

9.3 ngl. glass canon sure but that doesnt matter when youre seeing 7.7 unstabilised misery all the time.

8.7 with it. dont underestimate its HEAT-FS

I play the chieftain marksman a fair bit, its OP as hell for 8.3 yet its worse than gepard in every way.

chief marksman should be 8.7 and gepard should be 9.0. it wont be facing ww2 planes that way (that is unfair i dont care what APHE spam crutch players think)

Looking forward to playing it as its the closest we have to a scorpion CVRT for now. From seeing it in battle people tend to use it wrong. its a flanker/scout yet people keep trying to use it for brawling. i imagine 8.0 is fine tbh

how they have a lower K/D than a chieftain mk5 with 100 more horsepower (chieftain 900) is beyond me, russian mains are not the best but that is incredible.

9.7 or 10.0 after the questionable reload buff.

all 155mm HE slingers should be almost a full BR higher than they currently are.

pzh to 8.3, vidar to 8.7, as90/GBT155 should be 7.7 just as examples.