Hi guys with the recent controversy regarding the game, i thought now would be a good time to mention the Tanks currently in game along with a few features that are missing from the british tech tree for some unspecified reason. To no ones surprise its quite a long list, that i hope to break down with small snippets of evidence to justify each ones addition to the game. Firstly i will cover the shermans and other export tanks, which saw extensive service in the british army during the second world war or were designed purely with the intents to be used for lend lease
To begin with i will cover the shermans, but only those extensivly used by the united kingdom, as a few strays used for testing are in my opinion not suitible for addition. The ones that qualify for this criteria are as follows:
Sherman I (M4 (75 mm)) - the definitive sherman, of the 6,748 manufactured 2,096 were sent to the United Kingdom through lend lease
Sherman III (M4A2 (75 mm)) - of the 7,499 manufactured 5,041 were sent to the united kingdom.
Sherman V (M4A4) - Sherman tank specifically designed for lend lease, of the 7,499 manufactured 7,167 were sent to the United Kingdom, where they formed a back bone of tank divisions.
Sherman IIA (M4A1 76): British had over 1,000 of these delivered.
Sherman I Hybrid (M4 Composite): I don’t know numbers for this one, likely the numbers are included in the 2,000 odd Sherman I’s the British received. This vehicle can be found in-game as an Italian premium.
- Sherman IC Hybrid: This is the 5.0 Firefly in the Italian tree, unique in the fact it has the M4 Composite hull. Is a British vehicle that’s not present in the British tree and could be used to add the apds round to a british sherman firefly without having to change the br of the two already present in the tech tree.
After the shermans there is a wide range of other american lend lease vehicles that could be implimented into the british tech tree without much hassle, they are as follows:
Locust I (M22)- began development in late 1941 in response to a request by the British military earlier in the year for an airmobile light tank which could be transported onto a battlefield by glider as a replacement for the Tetrach. An initial order of 500 was requested of which 260 were delivered. The British used the tank in combat, and also made additional modifications to the vehicles improving performance which included a Littlejohn adaptor at the end of the Barrel and 2in Smoke-Bomb launchers on the turret.
Stuart V (M3A3 ) - Designed specifically for export and lend lease, of the 3,427 produced Britian was the largest recipient (over 1200), followed by china(1000) and then france (226)
Stuart VI (M5a1 stuart) - of the 6,810 produced 1131 were sent to the united kingdom where they were used extensivly
Chaffee I (M24) - the only significant reciepient of the tank for lendlease, of an order of 860, around 400 were delivered, and it was used by recce units during the closing stages of the war in europe
Greyhound (M8) - British are the reason it is refered to as the grey hound, 496 provided through lend lease
3inch Self-propelled Mount M10 MkI/MkII (M10) - 1,648 M10s were supplied by the United States to the British Army via the Lend-Lease program, of which 1,017 of the vehicles were up-gunned with the powerful 17-pounder (76.2mm) gun from May 1944 to April 1945.
M3 GMC: over 150 were supplied to the British and used in North Africa.
-M3 Lee: intermixed with the grants supplied to the united kingdom.
Boarhound (t18e2) - In July 1941, the United States Army Ordnance Corps issued specifications for a heavy armored car (along with another specification for a medium armored car, which resulted in the T17 Deerhound and T17E1 Staghound) to be built for supply to the British. Around 30 manufactured, with atleast two being sent to britian before its poor IRL performance lead to the cancellation of the massive order that had been placed by the uk home office. According to some sources the manufacured units were deployed to north africa later in the war to serve as airfield defence.
t14 heavy tank - Added for completions sake, but joint project between the United States and the United Kingdom with the goal being to produce a universal infantry tank. 2 manufactured, but going by the normal rule in game for joint projects it should be in both tech trees, so i am mentioning it for completions sake.
South african vehicles:
Class 3 (P) - added to the german tree previously due to the german engineering firms assitance in manufacturing it locally It is currently the only south african vehicle not in the british tech tree, and should really have been added to the uk tree initially, as the south african tree dropped the patch immediatly following the event. They simply chose to add it to germany as it would make them more money due to germany being one of the big three.
Canadian vehicles:
Ram 2 - controversial when added to the US tech tree when the uk was gagging for premiums at the BR. Initially designed to bolster UK tank production during the early stages of the second world war, the vast majority of the tanks were aquired by the british home office by the end of the war either for training purposes, or to be modified into other classes of vehicle (kangarros, wasps and so forth). In addition to this the tank added to the us tech tree was never tested or used by them,
Leopard C2A1 MEXAS - Mentioned for completions sake, as Gaijin has consitantly added canadian tanks to the british tech tree in recent years with the intents of making it a common wealth tree, the addition of indian tanks this coming update further confirming this. They simply chose to add it to germany as it would make them more money, like the Class 3 (p). The argument that this is a chassis of german origin doesnt hold water though, as we literally got a m113 adats from canda a year or so ago, so it clearly carries over to modern vehicles.
Australian vehicles:
Tank, Combat, Full Tracked, 120-mm Gun M1A1, AIM - all other australian vehicles are present in the uk tech tree, including planes, ships and tanks. again Gaijin being inconsistant with the addition of vehicles when its convenient, as the argument for this being added to the usa breaks the momment you see they are planning on adding a t-90 to the brit tree.
Missing features-
APDS for the sherman firefly- the italian one has apds the british doesnt for some reason
As an additional caveat, i might as well add the aircraft here as there are only two and i dont feel like that justifies a second post:
Meteor NF Mk.13 - The british suggestions section has been asking for a night fighter meteor for literal years, and then when israel got one, we were told we might get it. The british operated all 40 of the aircraft from their airfields in Malta, later selling them to several nations, israel being one of them (6 planes). this is no different than the F-84g, we should have gotten this plane by now.
Hunter F.58 - this can of worms has its own forum thread
I belive that is everything, feel free to correct me if i have missed something, but what are your guys thoughts on the matter?
