USA Tech Tree

I think making this statement in a vacuum while true makes people think that you believe the F-15C GE should be the same BR as the current 14.7s when some of the current 14.7s should also go up to 15.0.

Mainly being Rafale + Su-30SM2
while Su-30SM and MKM also go to 14.7

I’d have to see how that would play out, but sure, F15A vs Tornado with AIM-120 sounds worth testing to me

They perhaps should, But i also dont think the F-15C GE is that far behind the others either.

and the stats kinda prove that, with it keeping pace with the British Typhoon and Rafale and it actually being ahead of the Italian/German Typhoons and the Su-30SM2.

US mains seem to think the F-15C GE is one of hte weakest aircraft in-game right now, when the reality is, its perfectly competitive top tier aircraft. Those actually needing buffs are probably China (wth PL-12 needing an overhaul and the J-15T moving down to an appropriate BR) and Israel that doesnt even have an AESA Top tier. Sweden and Japan arent looking that hot at the moment either.

The US imo, is around 5th? in-line to actually need some top tier buffs at the moment and they certainly dont need vacuum buffs (like exclsuively getting next gen IR or ECM)

and the claim that the Typhoon is god tier and needs 0 fixes is getting old quite quickly, its third best at top tier at the moment and has a LOT of things that need to be fixed.

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Typhoon AESAs too. Typhoon and Su-30SM2 matter more for air rb while Rafale dominates in competitive tournaments.

yeah uh.
Rafale is still an absolute monster in air rb

you’re completely coping if you think otherwise

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No one says it doesn’t do very well there either, Rafale should go up as well. Just saying the typhoon aesa should go up as well because it was omitted from your original statement not that I think you maliciously did so, just wanted to point it out.

I routinely still see Rafales walking away with mutliple easy kills. MICA EM still remains the strongest Fox-3 and the UFO FM at high alt makes it incredibly strong. Ive literally seen one fly into a pack of 3 or 4 enemies, fire 1 missile at each and kill all of them.

Rafale is definetly still second best top tier at the moment, only beaten by the SU-30SM2 because of the MCM BS

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With BOL, Aim-9M and Aim-120C5 fixes and maybe also Aim-120Ds, sure.

But at the moment… its a good platform let down by poor equipment. Fighting things like the Rafale and Su-30SM2 is very hard because it just cant compete in terms of weapons. Let alone R-77-1 and MICA EMs just ignoring BOL

All three should go up to 15.0 and then all 3 should also get buffed upon moving it up to 15.0

Do you think the F-15C is an equal platform to the EFT?

I pointed out the two biggest offenders.
Typhoon is nowhere near as powerful as Rafale/Su-30SM2

How about.
No

Which one

Again no. Honestly, if all 3 move up to 15.0, the only one that really needs buffs is the Typhoon.

Su-30SM2 and Rafale would be just fine as is. As they both have Meta weapons and actually usable CMs

The F-15C GE is superior to the M-Scan Typhoons and On-par with the E-Scan Typhoons due to sheer missile quantity and the MCM meta.

It really needs the rudder fixed.
Euro wobble is just really annoying to deal with

the F-15CGE

They did, but feels like they reverted some of the changes and it now feels wobbly again. Though I think they just need to start over. Something is fundementally broken with the Typhoons FM and Instructor

Yes, that plane is almost on par with AESA euro for 16v16 air rb due to missile + cm count