honestly the only hope they have now is getting the SHARD which iirc is entering service with germany, italy and spain too? but honestly… just letting the ariete keep the DM33 and moving it down to like 10.3 or 10.7 wouldn’t break the game
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Or even buff its armour.
if were at the stage that brimstones are A historical.
Reloads on many tanks, and ammos are missing or A historical why stop there?
Yeah I think for italy ima stop around the 9.3 area tbh, thats my jam for this game, the cold war MBTs when you actually have A symertical warfare, T72s and 64s etc more armoured but less mobile against teh more mobile less armoured NATO mbts
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yeah sadly, but better to have it be at a better BR and be useable than having it face all the top tiers in game
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If it lost DM53 it could drop down pretty far TBF
yeah, italy’s only defining factor is their IFVs tbh at this point
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Which btw are absolutely brilliant I think one of the other things im going for.
I do dispise how gaijins solution RN to most trees is to just jam a leopard in it.
Look at france, the leclercs are some of the best MBTs in the world and ing ame they are cheeks.
solution? not to give it, its historically better round, or reload, or armour values (which were proven but binned in reports a while ago)
no add a 2a5 and 2a6 to the tree …
How this thread got from complains about the performance of US players and equipment to Challenger 2 stuff. During one hour of existance.
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yeah thats true, i mean the russian MBTs have a nerfed reload speed too since i think they are accounting for the caracel rotation instead of just moving to the next round, but for the leclerc im just a bit dissapointed that it doesnt have the OFLE 120 F2 because its a “wartime shell” but the leclerc’s armor is def a bit off, since iirc the forum about the leclerc mentioned it is using the armor specs of the pre-production model that was sent to sweden for testing
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that is a great question
Nah it’s clearly the Ha-go
Ask movran and his skill issue ( it’s also a contributing factor, sadly).
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Imagine a T72a in a full up tier vs an ariete
I don’t think so.
You’d still have great gun handling with 5s reload and good mobility paired with good thermals.
Even with DM33 only they’re 11.0 vehicles.
Its a compression issue. Without DM53, they should never see the 12.0 tanks and thus should be 10.7. But Airette with DM33 is too good to be 10.7
Yes it’s a problem of compression.
I’d personally give all of them their CL round and move them down a notch until we get more than just a 12.0 BR.
There is no world where I would take the hstvl over any mbt at top tier. The f15/16 are decent cas but nothing compared to the EF.
Meanwhile im still waiting for the EF to get 1/10th its IRL CAS ability and hoping it gets massive buffs next major. Id kill for the FnF AGM-65s the F-15/F16 have
That would be idiotic. It is already the best cas in game by a large margin and significantly cheaper to spawn than cas of other nations. It is perfectly fine as it is.
To be fair to him, everyone is missing something CAS wise. Also, the EFs came around a lot later than the F-15s and 16s so it makes sense for them to be missing a lot more
its much weaker than the Su-34 and Rafale and its massively nerfed with ahistorical loadout.
- Missing A2G radar mode
- Missing a number of GBU options
- Never used Brimstone 1s only 2s and later (Can still be SAL For now)
- Missing FnF Brimstones (of course needs quantity mitigation but there are better solutions than the “SAL ONLY” nerfs we have)
It needs buffs and is actually the 4th strongest CAS at the moment