you are asking for too much.
USA give country jet
country modify jet for it to be competitive
USA retire same jet for a new one
country keep modifying the jet even more to bring its out full potential and then retire it
Thats how it works
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The main important difference is that the Swiss 18C(early) gets 120 countermeasures compared to the US 18C(early)'s 60. Simple solution would be to just give the US 18C(early) 120 as well.
Or an alternative, which would also make a lot of the Swiss people happy, is giving the Swiss 18C(early) AIM-9P-5 and moving it to 13.0. This is a win win for both sides.
My dude Germany hasn’t suffered for a good while lol. They only suffer from bad players just like the other major nations.
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How about a player IQ buff?
The USA FA-18 C early is already under BRed, just cuz German mains manage to suck even more than USA ones somehow doesn’t mean it should go down even more!
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It’s not really under BR, 12.7 is the limit of what these planes can be without being dead thanks to compression. The only fox 1 slingers that can live at 13.0 have R27ER. Even if you gave them aim9m they are far worse off at 13.0 than 12.7 without them. 14.0 pulls things up hard so its much more than a .3 increase, just like 11.0 sucks atm because most premium spam is 11.7/12.0.
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Like you said, that’s compression coupled with the MASSIVE power step of ARH. That doesn’t change that for things at or lower than their BR they are over powered. Yes I agree they can’t go up, when I say they are under BRed I mean they over preform for their BR, not that I think they should be up tiered… but they are better then other planes at their BR like the F-16 ADF.
lmao this is my best of skill issue usamain copium so i save this in my screenshot collection
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Eeeeehhhhhh, id argue that air sucked for a while.
29G vs. Gripen A with old multipath and BOL strength nearly made me quit ARB alltogether.
ARH release was also rough with only KWS.
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True, which is the only reason why I put “for a good while”.
Their air tree suffered a lot in parts of 2023 and most of 2024, until they got the EFT, but their ground tree really hasn’t suffered in years, especially not ever since they added the 2A7V.
However in hindsight maybe it would have been better if I seperated air and ground though when I made the "Germany hasn’t suffered in a while"claim.
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Nah, dont worry bout it.
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Are American mains capable of not being bad at the game?
The hornet is still in use and still being upgraded by the US so this is not applicable
The Swiss C early literally has every feature denied on the US one even though USN/USMC had them
u was rigth i was wrong i mean Aim9M no X my fault already edited the post.
Its 150 KG heavier for a few more CMs
Only sweden as of currently, and they trade a HMD and ground ordnance for 600KG of weight reduction.
The Swiss hornets aren’t gonna be gamebreaking
No worries!
I much prefer the M over the L.
I’d love to have a Hornet with 9Ms but without AIM120 so it could fit somewhere between 12.7 and 14.0.
I do think it would warrant a BR increase though
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Id say the 18C early is on the very edge between 12.7 and 13.0 with its current kit, being held back only by low CM count and 9Ls.
Swiss premium hornet having “late” engines, radar and CM count (does it get the 18C late RWR too?) is arguably 13.0 material already, personally id just give it 9Ms and shove it there.
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You need range at 13.0 because the majority of your games are gonns be full uptiers, 9ms dont solve anything in that regard.
Ive been spading the su33 today, pretty much every game im seeing typhoons and at 14.0, it can hold its own here because it isn’t outranged with r27, just sucks when you have to fly defensive and have no answer to fox3.
Having to deal with this in something with what half the range of r27 and no fox 3 would be near unplayable. It would be in the graveyard with the rest of the non r27/fox3 13.0s
Then again it is objectively better than the 18C early, and 18C early shouldnt definetively go any lower.
Amd the premium F-2 sits at 13.0 with sparrows and IRCCM missiles.
Realistically both swiss and 18C early will sit at 12.7 till decompression happens.
This is the biggest case of American cope syndrome I’ve EVER seen. Yes let’s give a 12.7 9M or python 3 (it never carried either). Lets also bump a perfectly fine 12.7 placed jet DOWN a BR just because a SLIGHTLY different version gets added.
Complain some more bro. Just makes the america jet players look worse than they already do.
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The MLU 2 is going to be incredibly funny though. imo the only 18C worth grinding for air RB.
I told myself that I would not grind the Swedish air tree for yeas to come, but that MLU 2 funny almost made me change my mind.
i think so.