USA A-10C bias needs to be 12.0 to be “fair”

[UnknownDistance]

Aim-9M Sim

6.6km Aim-9M shot. He should have pre-flared? Or just needs to stay further away or something.

[Axzuel]

Uh ok…? Man who ignores proof denies ignorance.

And no I’m not referring to the drawing, that’s just a visualization to how their IRCCM effectiveness works over distance. You trying to perceive that as proof is kinda funny.

Maybe you should do some research on your own. You didn’t even know how the 9M and R-73 worked until people spelled it out for you. So I’m not sure if its a good idea to deny proof when you can’t even read by yourself.

@UnknownDistance

6.6km Aim-9M shot. He should have pre-flared? Or just needs to stay further away or something.

Very nice. I mean nothing he could do prevent death there, he was focused on someone else and you snuck up.

[esapekkis]

Been playing pretty much the A-10C recently (2/3 to ace crew now) and yeasterday I was greeted with this when I logged in:

Seems like the enemy team(s) did not think A-10C is fair on 11.3

[UniqueScorpions]

@Axzuel

And no I’m not referring to the drawing, that’s just a visualization to how their IRCCM effectiveness works over distance. You trying to perceive that as proof is kinda funny.

Maybe you should do some research on your own. You didn’t even know how the 9M and R-73 worked until people spelled it out for you. So I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to deny proof when you can’t even read by yourself.

When did I ever say I didn’t know how Aim-9ms or R-73s worked? I’ve always known.

Then why post the photo? And you just re-eluded to that photo.
Nor did I agree it was proof. That’s why I said prove they operate the exact way you say, unless of course, your incorrect and talking some non-sense.

[Axzuel]

@UniqueScorpions

When did I ever say I didn’t know how Aim-9ms or R-73s worked? I’ve always known.

@UniqueScorpions

It does change though, to get slimmer as it gets closer, or at least that’s how it’s supposed to work, also refer once more to my last post.

^ You trying to explain R-73

@UniqueScorpions

Also, sim & rb are not the same.

^ You for some reason thinking SB changes how R-73 works

@UniqueScorpions

Yes, I think the Aim-9L preforms far better.

^ Delusional take of 9L > R-73

@UniqueScorpions

Air speed has nothing to do with AAM speed… or guidance.

^ lol

I mean every time I post some kind of damning evidence you immediately try to move the goalpost or try to explain otherwise despite not having the data, most notably you trying to explain why my R-73 hit an F-15 3km away even though he was flaring.

@UniqueScorpions

Then why post the photo? And you just re-eluded to that photo.

Its easier to explain with pictures rather than describing everything.

[kitsune_qq]

@UnknownDistance

The radar doesn’t tell you what kind of plane you are acquiring and the radar will also ping my RWR which tells me what kind of plane is scanning me and roughly how far away it is. Also most radars at this tier are not very good.

Well
Radar tells you direction and distance(depends)
And bruh, enemy has no radar, enemy flies 350-400 knots, what it can be on US side?

[UnknownDistance]

The radar doesn’t tell you the speed that a target is moving at and most of the radars at 11.3 are not pulse doppler.

The RWR on the A-10C is more useful than pretty much any of the actual radars at this tier.

[Schindibee]

@Morvran

Therefore Su-24M should be 11.7 because it has guided A2G weapons.

Yeah would be nice if the Fencer got separated BR-wise from the earlier Tornados (MFG/WTD). At the moment on “red” side it’s really very full with Fencers and Tornados, so one has to chase for bases before they get destroyed b others, which is quite annoying.

[kitsune_qq]

@UnknownDistance

The radar doesn’t tell you the speed that a target is moving at and most of the radars at 11.3 are not pulse doppler.

Radar does tell you target velocity vector

[UnknownDistance]

Only if you hard lock a target. Which will only work if you have a pulse doppler radar if the target is near the ground. Which most planes are this battle rating do not have.

[esapekkis]

@ZE4L0T

The Su-25s have better flight performance and some have R-73s… I am not even sure what standard you are judging these vehicles by. The A-10C is easy to not get killed by in Sim unless you try to turnfight it. Same goes for the Su-25s. They are very easy to play around in dedicated fighters. Their primary purpose is to hit ground targets and defend themselves.

To me A-10C seems more like air-to-air focused plane on its current BR and the ground pounding part being a nice extra. I mean…A-10C is literally the best plane to pick for air supremacy mission (capping A points) in EC.

[UniqueScorpions]

@Axzuel

@UniqueScorpions

When did I ever say I didn’t know how Aim-9ms or R-73s worked? I’ve always known.

@UniqueScorpions

It does change though, to get slimmer as it gets closer, or at least that’s how it’s supposed to work, also refer once more to my last post.

^ You trying to explain R-73

@UniqueScorpions

Also, sim & rb are not the same.

^ You for some reason thinking SB changes how R-73 works

@UniqueScorpions

Yes, I think the Aim-9L preforms far better.

^ Delusional take of 9L > R-73

@UniqueScorpions

Air speed has nothing to do with AAM speed… or guidance.

^ lol

I mean every time I post some kind of damning evidence you immediately try to move the goalpost or try to explain otherwise despite not having the data, most notably you trying to explain why my R-73 hit an F-15 3km away even though he was flaring.

@UniqueScorpions

Then why post the photo? And you just re-eluded to that photo.

Its easier to explain with pictures rather than describing everything.

XD
Ah yes I’m the delusional one.

1. I explained how R-73s work. Great and?

2. Yes I do think Sb does change somethings, that’s called an opinion, and based off of my experiences, it concurs with my opinion.

3. Again, based off my experiences, I’ve scored more Kills with firing one aam (aim-9L) than firing 2-3 R-60ms.

4. I should’ve been more specific, but hey you corrected me and I took it like a champ, now you’re on a rage campaign. I should’ve initially said, I don’t think air speed affects it that much, because that’s what I was actually thinking to myself. But you showed DATA that supports your theory, although it doesn’t cause a drastic difference between the two contrasted planes.

5. I haven’t changed the goalposts once… that’s your own mind, secondly, me trying to explain something, and understand what happened in your clips, is my interpretation bud. I have given plenty of reasons why the F-15a may have been hit, it could also be as simple as game server lag no?

6. Then post an actual photo with actual data, you seem scared to.

Lastly, if you keep going down this path of nonsense I’m just going to have the moderators remove you. Your not really doing anything but looking for a fight at this point.

[UniqueScorpions]

Would be nice for event score to go back up to 3.0x for air sim. I do have a life, I don’t feel like spending all of it on WT.

And, at least the matches I’ve been it’s the good old USSR vs everyone kinda match. Most people have been running Mig-23s, I and one other person ran an Su-24M.

How can you align the cockpit sight for bombing in the SU-24? I was trying to drop napalm, and had lased a target, but I could see the trajectory I needed to go for bomb release permissions.

[UnknownDistance]

Yeah I don’t think this concept has dawned on any of the Air RB players here.

[Talisid]

I came back to the game after a while only to find out that an a-10 with 4x aim9m and top level RWR can now destroy another whole battle rating. A-10 is currently both the best attacker and the best fighter at that BR. Why gaijin?? I wonder why they do it.

[Lolman345]

@UniqueScorpions

There is no debate the Aim-9m is still performing better, even on the slowest airframe which speaking volumes to how OP it is in Sim.

The R-73 has superior Delta V, and that is a hard coded fact that you cant change, any belief that the 9M has superior range or kinematic performance is placebo or cope.

@kitsune_qq

Radar does tell you target velocity vector

Dude does not understand that “Radar” stands for “Radio Detection And Ranging” and range cannot be gained without velocity knowledge.

[UnknownDistance]

@Lolman345

Dude does not understand that “Radar” stands for “Radio Detection And Ranging” and range cannot be gained without velocity knowledge.

What direction are the targets on this radar screen traveling? What is their velocity? What is their vector? What targets are friendly? What targets are enemy?

This is MiG-21 Bis radar by the way.

Here I will give you a hint. There are 7 targets within the scan range of the radar.

Okay…well maybe that was too hard for you to understand.

How fast is this target going? What direction is it going?

[USA_PilotsAreBad]

pre falring works on r73s at any range because the seeker sees the flares 100% because it doesnt restrict fov until launch

[tripod2008]

@UnknownDistance

What direction are the targets on this radar screen traveling?

Can be determined by seeing how the contact moves across the scope over time.

@UnknownDistance

What is their velocity?

Combining the above determination with approximated Closure rate allows for it to be estimated.

@UnknownDistance

What is their vector?

As above, Watch the scope for a period of time and it can be interpreted, if you know what you are doing, its a skill that you can learn even if you set doesn’t automate everything.

@UnknownDistance

What targets are friendly? What targets are enemy?

Context clues, your Map, and IFF functionality and asking for positional updates, or by challenging a contact for RWR (Buddy Spike) from you team can help deconflict.

@UnknownDistance

How fast is this target going? What direction is it going?

The Scope alone doesn’t provide all of the info that would be needed.

[UnknownDistance]

@tripod2008

Can be determined by seeing how the contact moves across the scope over time.

Where are the contacts on the radar screen? I can’t seem to find them. Maybe you can circle them for us?

@tripod2008

Combining the above determination with approximated Closure rate allows for it to be estimated.

Where are you getting the above information? The only thing I see is a blank radar scope and 7 contacts at less than 20km.

@tripod2008

As above, Watch the scope for a period of time and it can be interpreted, if you know what you are doing, its a skill that you can learn even if you set doesn’t automate everything.

As above…with what information that is actually on the radar scope?

@tripod2008

Context clues, your Map, and IFF functionality and asking for positional updates, or by challenging a contact for RWR (Buddy Spike) from you team can help deconflict.

Precisely none of this information requires or is aided by the use of the radar in this case.

@tripod2008

The Scope alone doesn’t provide all of the info that would be needed.

You don’t say.