USA A-10C bias needs to be 12.0 to be “fair”

How are those cherry-picked? R-73s perform the same for me.

R-73s perform the same for everybody.

The clips he are showing are just to support the point that the R-73 are as difficult to flare as the Aim-9M. He is using footage from Air RB where there are markers. He completely ignores the point that has been brought up over and over again that the A-10C is far better in Air Sim than the Su-25.

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Which variant of the Su-25?

All of them.

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The Su-25s have better flight performance and some have R-73s… I am not even sure what standard you are judging these vehicles by. The A-10C is easy to not get killed by in Sim unless you try to turnfight it. Same goes for the Su-25s. They are very easy to play around in dedicated fighters. Their primary purpose is to hit ground targets and defend themselves.

This is delusional theory crafting from yet another Air RB player.

There are no markers in Sim. You do not know where the A-10C is unless you visually acquire it. Even if you visually see the dot…you have to actually get close enough to be able to tell that its an A-10.

If you commit to fighting anything else…the A-10C will hit you with an Aim-9M. If you go head-on with it…you have to dump flares to avoid head-on Aim-9M and you still have high likelihood of getting killed with a vulcan.

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Your Radar with IFF capabilities?

Do you actually need to know what airframe it is, guessing at the role based off context clues should inform you tactical decisions.

Just fly in another direction, break line of sight I don’t actually think that the A-10 can even catch up to any other airframe. Yes ambushes and sudden contact does happen, but context clues and tactics can help avoid said occurrences.

Why would you expect anything else to happen? just fly off, reset the engagement and come in from a better angle. If your not in a fighter you don’t need to kill aircraft, and if you are, how is it fair expect strike airframes to be free kills?

Physics in ARB is the same in ASB. Also I never commented on the A-10C’s placement in ASB. Try not to put words in my mouth.

IRST does not improve the IRCCM of the R-73. However slaving the R-73 to IRST or Radar will help ignore pre-flaring to get the missile to lock the target pre-launch.

The Physics for ARB and ASB are the same.

Correct, but they demonstrate that pre-flaring doesn’t always work against the R-73. These clips do not prove that the R-73 always ignores flares, however there’s a good chance they will if you are close enough or your launch parameters are good enough.

R-73 and 9M’s IRCCM effecitveness work as follows. So the R-73 can have a superior IRCCM effectiveness and the 9M can have a superior IRCCM effectiveness depending on distance.

There are also other factors that make one missile unique to the other. Like the 9M being smokeless motor and the R-73 having thrust vectoring.

Yep, 12.3 sounds better, because not even 11.0 should see these. IRCCM should be STRICTLY top tier.

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The radar doesn’t tell you what kind of plane you are acquiring and the radar will also ping my RWR which tells me what kind of plane is scanning me and roughly how far away it is. Also most radars at this tier are not very good.

If I am flying A-10C in air to air role…then you won’t have those context clues. You won’t know that I am at the ground battle because I won’t be attacking it. You have to sort out my black dot from amongst the other black dots that you can see…and then correctly identify me from 3-5km away.

The issue isn’t that the A-10C can defend itself. The issue is that it is the best fighter for its BR in practice. It has all of the tools to defend itself at a higher tier without ruining the playability of planes at the current tier.

Currently it faces things that have a grand total of 6 countermeasures. That is ridiculous.

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Lmao not for me. I wish. Although yes they are supposed to, work the same as rb in sb… or maybe I’m just too used to them being bad lol.

Well let’s not forget flares won’t defeat IOG

Not all 10.3-11.3 aircraft have IFF, or good radars even.

Yes, because one A-10 is pretty well balanced, the other one broke a whole BR range.

Lastly, if you turn in any SU, you usually bleed too much speed if your fairly close (kept happening when me vs Unknown got into a lobby) I would be doing about 600 mph, turn and flare to evade the Aim-9m, but he’d hit me with his cannon since I bled so much speed I was doing 400-450 mph, and he was doing 400.

Also, most USA teams are 2v1 USSR, or 3v1 can’t really fight that effectively in a Su

Come to think of it, A-10C is the only aircraft in game currently with the ability to IFF without pinging or notifying the enemy aircrafts RWR. Pretty massive for sim

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“Far” “point black”
R-73 irrcm seems to only do good under 0.5 KM unlike the Aim-9m

Exactly ^

If that’s what you believe. At this point I’m just repeating myself.

Because you aren’t proving anything. Show actual repeatable stats

I just showed you multiple clips of the R-73 ignoring flares beyond 0.5km. Not gonna compile 100 short videos to prove a point to someone whos ignorant.

Ah yes I’m ignorant, a clip, you know how many clips I could send to you of the Aim-9ms way over preforming?

And if could I want stats based off some photo you drew. Because that photo isn’t a stat, that’s an opinion.