USA A-10C bias needs to be 12.0 to be “fair”

Both missiles are going to catch a near supersonic target from a 4km tail chase when launched near sea level. The Aim-9M will also have a higher chance of success in a tail chase due to the whole being invisible thing. There are no markers in Air SB so distance has to be done visually anyways.

I never said that it was. It’s just a worse missile for Air SB and the Su-25 variants only carry two of them.

Speed is much more important in the game mode that you play because situational awareness is done for you in the form of red markers and third person view. Both the A-10C and Su-25 are slow for their BRs but the Su-25 has far less situational awareness.

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Theres something wrong with your graphs.
Here’s what I found in mine. Both missiles chasing a target going 1000kmh at 100m altitude from 4km away chasing.


R-73 ^

9M ^

edit: fixed graph scale

Or there is something wrong with your graphs.

Either way the rest of the point remains. You know nothing about playing SB.

How can a plane traveling near mach only travel 1km in 9s?

Fix yours before trying to lecture me

Because a tail chase is modeled so while target is going above Mach 1 doesn’t change the fact that the launch platform is going 700kph / 950 kph. What you are seeing is the relative speed difference between the two.

So the graph is actually depicting the target’s relative distance from the launch platform and not the missile? I don’t think that actually shows if the missile is going to hit or not.

Either way the graphs I presented show a better picture without dependencies.

No way a short range fox 2 is going to hit a target 4km away (near mach) chase in an actual battle.

It’s also showing the missiles relative distance from the platform…so logically if missile and target are same distance from the platform at the same time…then the missile is hitting the target.

I might have to go back and look at the parameters I put in. It could be a misclick.

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Hmm

kinda odd you say the R-7 fire at most 7760m, when at fired at a plane in re-aspect (so I was chasing doing 578mph), an F-4 traveling at roughly 700 mph, at 2.3 km away from me, after burning the whole time, and didn’t know the R-73 was launched, and he did not flare, at a height of 250m, it missed… several times I’ve seen this happen.
If you’d like I’ll record the next time it happens if I haven’t already uploaded a video.

There is no debate the Aim-9m is still performing better, even on the slowest airframe which speaking volumes to how OP it is in Sim.

Compared to what? An R-60? An R-60M? An R-3R? It’s no slouch if you:
-don’t preflare in a turn fight when you know a R-73 carrier will be able to put turn you.

That’s pretty much it chief. Preflare every few secs and your immune.

Just send server replay link so I can actually see sensor data.

Compared to a 9M. What makes you think I was comparing it to an R-60 or an R-3R? Are you stupid?

None of the Su-25 variants would be able to hit that shot in Air SB.

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Its a counter argument that pre-flaring is 100% effective at defeating R-73s. Ignore the dogfighting part.

It’s a side aspect shot from point blank…of course it’s going to hit unless its can’t just pull in.

Pre-flaring is easiest way to defeat R-73s that are fired from over 1km away.

The Su-25 doesn’t have HMD…so it has to get into a position where it can hold the nose on you in order to lock the R-73.

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Wow more Air RB clips while using HMD.

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HMD provided no significant advantage there. You’re just nitpicking at this point to try and de-value.

I am not nitpicking.
You have ignored every other argument and only justify A-10C BR placement in sim because the R-73 is good in Air RB.

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Damn bro you must be cheating cuz my r-73s never operate like that unless I’m locked in IR mode in a mig-29smt

This only makes me think it works correctly in Air RB and clearly doesn’t work right for sim

Missiles work the same in Air RB as they do in SB.
But also these are cherry picked clips.

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