USA A-10C bias needs to be 12.0 to be “fair”

  1. Already been stated
  2. To see how missiles are performing in sim you need the replay… duh
  3. Brother… did you actually just say the F-14 is equal to a mig-23??? I didn’t know I could strap 8 aams (4 of which are active homing) to my mig-23, I’ve been playing it wrong for years!!

How is your fov so high?? Or is it just that visible out of that cockpit?

Like wow. I might see a pixel out of the Su-39

Smokeless + IOG is really freaking good.

WHAT??

You know how many aim-9Ls I’ve avoided over the years BECAUSE I saw visible smoke?!

Precisely my point.

So what about the Su-25s?

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So what about the Su-25s?

I didn’t realized at the time I was in a sim thread. Ignore what I previously posted.

Almost broke 21 kills. But I died 4 times so I think the plane should be down-tiered so it doesn’t see any IRCCM missiles whatsoever.

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Lmao I would’ve typed in chat we were in the same match, but I told a USA main to un-install for letting me die so he could get a kill In grb, so I’m com banned for 30 days even thou he threatened to come to my house and stab me, yet gaijin only com banned me.
TL;DR, nice flying. But yeah those aim 9ms are way too OP on that, I took a few vids, nothing spectacular, but trying to keep up with another good pilot, while being 2v7 and in the Su-39 was very difficult.

R-73s both missed here:

The first time you killed me, I don’t know if you saw, but I fired all 4 aams at an after burning F-4 which was in the best possible position for me, they all magically missed.
Idk if I clipped that, but if I did I’ll upload it.

I got you 3 times, out of your 4 deaths, 2 aams while pretty much touching you, they were R-73s because the R-60s got flared only 0.8 km out, my other kill was a gun run, but overall you got me with 2 gun runs, and I think 4 aam kills. Somehow one of your aim-9ms Almost got me rear aspect in the Su-39, but i flared and happened to move which saved me.

If was able to see out of the cockpit, it would’ve been way better

@UnknownDistance

It isn’t. It isn’t fair for flareless jets to face in the case of A-10As

9M’s don’t have IOG, like I said they’re exact same as 9L but with IRCCM and motor is smokeless.

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It has INS, which is essentially the same as IOG.

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Source? It doesn’t say anywhere in-game or in datamine spreadsheets. As far as I know only the radar missiles and atgms have IOG as a feature in game.

The war thunder wiki

That’s just the IRCM feature

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But it’s still INS, which is just IOG with a different name.

It’s not guided by magic when the seeker is closed.

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IOG: The R27ER loses lock but maintains what it believes to be the same course that will intercept the enemy plane at some point either by proxy or by re-lock

INS: The AIM-9M drops lock on purpose when it detects a flare but maintains what it believes to be the same course that will intercept the enemy plane at some point either by proxy or by re-lock.

Are you seeing it now

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^ exactly

So is it decided that the A-10C is too good for 11.3? And should be moved to 12.0?

Nope.
It’s perfectly balanced.

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Cons: It’s slow.

Pros: Everything else it has is better than anything at its BR.

Not very balanced.

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Agreed. But hey if speed is the biggest factor here, the Su-25T should be a 9.7 right?

@UnknownDistance
(I know you were talking sarcastically lol I watched you wipe my whole team one match, and the only person who really could put up a good fight was me until I was getting 2v1’d)

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The whole “but it’s slow” argument doesn’t make a whole lot of sense because you can pick and choose any planes that are “slow” but still are the best for their BRs.

Take the JF-17 for example, it’s slower than a lot of other aircraft at its BR but is the best 13.3 fighter.

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