Because they’re gimmick aircrafts in Air game modes. Nothing good about them except their missiles.
I don’t play sim but in ARB the A-10C is fine at 11.7. Its simply too vulnerable and anyone with a braincell can dodge a 9M going slow since the average speed of an A-10C is like 500kmh.
Air RB has nothing to do with Air SB. You are playing a game mode with randomized up-tiers and down-tiers with shared markers for aircraft and for missiles and third person view.
The Aim-9M in Sim is completely invisible. Tiering is also completely different…the A-10C will never fight F-15s, F-14s, or the like. The absolute hardest thing that the A-10C will fight in Air SB is the MiG-23 MLD…a plane that on average is worse in Sim than it is in Air RB due to the limitations of flying in cockpit view.
Yeah I said “in ARB”… I didn’t say “in sim”.
I’m well aware that sim is different hence why I never made an opinion on it in the first place?
This is the sim sub forum. The people that are complaining about the A-10C…are complaining about the way that it is tiered in Sim.
I’m allowed to to post here despite mainly being an RB player just like how you’re allowed to go on RB top tier forums despite not playing top tier RB.
I went and tried it. A-10C is still hilariously undertiered and needs to go up. Any other suggestions?
Sure you are welcome to post in Sim section of forums. But as far as I understand this thread is about A-10C BR in air Sim. So how about you stop posting offtopic RB stuff / keep them where they belong?
Generally speaking…If I am posting in the Air RB forum…I am going to be talking about Air RB.
My posts are not off topic. I corrected someone for not understanding that airspeed matters in missile range. Then provided opinion on ARB because ARB and ASB are not completely mutually exclusive since they both share the same mechanics and game engine. The only differences are the matchmaking, objective, and 1st person with no instructor in which I purposely avoided talking about.
So how about we not gatekeep this topic at the first sight of the word “RB” without reading the comment?
You know your profile is public right? This is literally you talking about Sim in an ARB topic. I don’t really care if you post sim in rb but damn.
This was in response to CorporalApollo and about reducing mulit-pathing again.
Guess what game mode he primarily plays?
Its sim. He only plays Air RB in order to grind planes for Air SB.
I am responding to a guy who is talking about his sim experience in an RB thread with my own sim experience. Also the topic is about multipathing which is 1:1 identical in SB as it is in RB.
Your response to this thread is basically that the A-10C is fine where it is in Sim because you think it is fine in Air RB. (Nobody with half a brain thinks that it should be at its current BR in Air RB either…but that is another topic.)
Why don’t you go police that thread instead then. Also here you are talking about sim again, even if its sarcasm, its still “off topic” 🤓.
Wot? I said it should get moved to 11.7 in ARB. No where did I say its fine in sim because its fine in RB. Why are you putting words in my mouth?
My responses in that thread are basically directed towards an audience of one.
The fact that you are unable to pick up on the sarcasm in my reply or the context of it is just kind of baffling to me.
The way that you phrased your response reads as if it is already 11.7 in Air RB and not stuck at 11.3.
I just said your comment was sarcasm. You quoted it too.
I need you to learn how to read.
So really the issue is you not knowing the original BR of the A-10C.
Does su-25t/tm used R-73 on last pylons?
Also, with R-77 Su-25TM will become 13.0 like AV-8B Radar or Brittish Harrier(with amraams). Well…
My bad long…I was busy last night and only partially reading your comments.
Regardless, the point still stands that this is not the first time yourself or other Air RB players have came into a sim thread and attempted to use the excuse that “well it’s fine in Air RB” to seemingly justify something working completely differently in Air SB.
The implication when you say that it is fine at 11.7 is that the current BR is 11.7. It’s actually 11.3 in Air RB as well…which is just kind of dumb.
But it’s also Air RB where you can see that there is an A-10C from 30km away and where mouse pointer sim means that safely shooting it with guns is 10x easier.
Oh I intend too. I just proved the Fox in grb to be absolutely broken too.
You quite literally ignored every pro of the A-10 here, which the only con is its speed. cough cough biased.
I dare you to buy the Su-39, or if you have the Su-25T fly it in air sim. Find a lobby with a-10cs in it. Shouldn’t be hard. You’ll see.
Exactly ^
No, in fact, they are not. In air rb you can see a big red Diamond when an Aim-9m is flying at you no?
The Su-25SM3 (not TM) only get 2 R-73s on the second to last pylon.
Well, if we are going with irl weapons, the R-77 was on the Su-39, and yes it could be a 12.0 then, but honestly R-77s are garbage compared to R-27ERs, I think I have yet to score a kill with an R-77
Only one detail. MiG-23MLD in sim is much better than in RB because it can hit on big distances absolutely undetected thanks to R-24T and thanks to no markers and worse view in sim are R-60M much more effective. I would say that it should even get higher BR.
I’d argue MIG23MLD is better in RB than in sim.
It has one of the worst cockpits which obstructs your view in a meaningful way. You also get into more 1 on 1 engagements in sim due to the large nature and low player count of it, in RB you merge with 16 people at the same time all spotted and marked, meaning you can pick and choose between a large amount of people to engage
Players in sim are also super vigilant with their RWR and avionics, if you lock/scan someone in sim you’re going to get that persons full attention unlike in RB where it often goes unnoticed due to merging with 16 people at the same time every game.
R-24T is not hitting an A-10C unless MAWS is turned off.
