US helicopters and Apaches of other nations missing Hellfire variants that make them competitive

So as much as I would like to see the Lima on a Longbow it is kinda a bit too much for most vehicles. Same goes with R & N. Also do not see the point of HE or blast frag variants.

That said, range under performs, speed is too high, lock after launch is absent aaaaaaand countermeasure hardening is absent on the Kilo. And as someone mentioned earlier - HI/DIR/LO mode switch must be a thing, please.

In case you mean me, i am no friend of russian balancing either and think the damage model should be fixed and further uptiered
I am certainly no russian coper

Fair enough.

Didnt see that part.

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since a few non russia Nations have F&F Heli missiles if that would make a difference then they’d already suffer now

The hellfire’s motor stops burning, it can’t hit aerial targets that aren’t stationary.

The 30mm of the Apache shoots grenades with incredibly low velocity, it’s extremely bad. The AH-1Z’s minigun is infinitely more effective.

What high tier helicopter has no cannon?

This helicopter has FAF missiles already.

This is also one helicopter do you have no other examples you can use?

Helicopter 2 Helicopter engagements are done at range.

The Vikhrs was the king of this but with the addition of the French and Italian Spikes they take the spot by the benefit of being able to move in to cover.

Hellfires would be Ok if they were modeled correctly. But they are not:

  • they are to slow to target
  • their impact angle is to low
  • due to their trajectory they loose to much speed/maneuverability at longer ranges.
  • they miss their fire modes

Not mention that one of the coolest advantages of the hellfires (remote lasing) is not modeled at all.

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with Mediocre range and no A-A Capabilities

It’s the worst top tier helicopter.

How does this have relevance to the thread?

I know I own it

Imo, add the Agm114L but limit it to only 8 like the other helis. With how F&F are rn, there targeting is horrible and I don’t think Gaijin has the expertise to make it any better.

Are you seriously saying the Apache has better A2A capability than the UHT because of the 30mm cannon?..

Standard German main lmao.

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I wouldn’t call the 4 Stingers good A-A capabilities

Both helicopters have four ATAS as a2a missiles. The UHT gets FnF capability with its ATGM which can be used to hit enemy helicopters at long range.

All of this is a moot point - the Vikhr is the best a2g and a2a helicopter missile in the game. I get tons of kills on F-16s with my Ka-52. Other helicopters don’t stand a chance at all.

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Against planes yes , the 30mm are a better defense

Only an imbecile is flying straight at you in a jet close enough to let you rip them with your chin cannon.

90% of my kills on jets in helicopters are using Vikhrs. The actual A2A missiles (even for the Ka-52 lmao) are rubbish. I used to get kills with the AH Mk.1 Starstreaks, but for the last few months Starstreaks have been genuinely worthless, and GJN cba to fix them.

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I’ve never hit a Heli or any flying thing with the PARS

but then again I’ve only ever used it in Heli EC