US ground vehicle tree on top of the tree, needs a buff

And the Desert Warrior is absolutely as terrible an IFV as the Bradley, and no one plays it. Ask any player what they think of the Bushmaster, and they’ll tell you it’s terrible.

Let’s imagine that all Soviet IFVs were nerfed: ATGMs don’t fly straight, guns can’t penetrate tanks. Missiles don’t deal damage, and all IFVs are nerfed in mobility. Let’s see how much the USSR’s win rate on these IFVs drops. It would drop significantly, because the BMP-1, 2, 3, BMP-4, etc. occupy a very important tier of vehicles.

Because that would make everyone equal. The Abrams has no armor; it’s essentially a light tank in the game. But it’s fighting against tanks with virtually all-round armor, spall liner, etc.

If the Abrams is a light tank, then I have no idea what to class the Ariete and Challenger 3 as.

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Is the Ariete that tank that appears at Christmas? I just don’t know what it is. It seems to be very rare in the game.

the m1a1 is perfectly fine at 11.7 just like the type 90 they are both good guns on a easy to 1 shot body, the Chally 2 is already at 11.7 with decent armor on 2f armor upgrade with the trade off of having slower speed, TD is also fine for its br since its the Lowest br you can get Proper DM53 and the Black knight is the Only MBT in the game that has an aps that can stop Kinetic rounds so you cant really put it any lower than 12.7

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Because its a glass-canon, it has no armour at all. That is an actual light tank

Only if the target is like 1km away, as it wont intercept shells that are traveling too fast. So on 99% of maps, you are just playing the standard 11.7 Challenger 2.

Of course if you pretend its “nerfs” like the artifiically reduced ready rack, missing spall liners, missing armour, etc etc arent there.

It has no armour, at all. Only way it can be 12.0 is if it gets 5 second reload. Its easily one of the worst MBTs at top tier.

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Turns out its just america players and not that the vehicles are bad

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the speed limit is 1700ms the 2 most common round at top tier M829A2 and 3BM60 are both slower than that, that DM53 and type 90 mashups are a lil rough tho

I have never ever had the APS on the BN save me from a shell fired at close range, and even at long range its hit and miss

Iv seen the Black knight intercept multiple shots from me at like 200m in both my Russian and US tanks sure your not gonna live at like sub 100m but stopping even some kinetic shots is a pretty good feature to have.

To be honest, the Abrams just needs some bug fixing and some relaxation on the whole turret basket issue.
I think that implementing the accept bug reports for the Abrams would give it a more needed buff than anything.

The SEP V3 wouldn’t offer anything new other than increased armour; M829A3 wouldn’t also not likely come due to the Anti-ERA tips and other nations not having a equivalent dart.

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Most top tier shells already in-game should have this, like L27A1 and DM53

I haven’t.

Pretty much, yeah.
Gaijin however, isn’t too keen on adding Anti-ERA tips yet. If anything, I think it would be a broken addition with some unneeded consequences, I guess.

It would just nerf the soviets, which is why they wont do it.

This braindead take again? if you combine the games played of the 2 Abrams tanks at 12.7 for December, You end up with almost 10 times as many games played. games played and the matchmaking of the nation tends to have an effect on stats.

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just gonna leave this here

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Or the Chinese MBTs, which if we’re being real is not really that great compared to other contemporaries.

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Yea the nation played means its different players, further proving its american mains having serious skill issues

december 2025 stats

50% better k/d and double the SL and RP per match on average. This isnt a vehicle issue at all

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If you look at Kill Dead, American players are better. Don’t look at win rates; China spends 90% of the game playing alongside the USSR, and China has the Su-30SM, KH-38MT, and the best helicopter. They have good tanks, too.