US ground vehicle tree on top of the tree, needs a buff

You’ve got a 110% death rate in your T-90M, yet you’re unironically arguing that it’s armour and survivability are what prove it’s totally worthy of being 12.7.

I could take this argument a little more seriously if it weren’t for the fact that every time someone makes this argument, they:
A) Have never played the T-90M themselves.
Or B) Their stats show they die in pretty much every single match.

Meanwhile, you completely dodged my points in regards to it’s firepower being the literal worst at 12.7, it’s mobility being absolutely awful or it’s gun handling being mediocre at best.
All of which is more important than the passive and RNG advantage in armour it’s got.

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Along with the new Abrams X It would be more reasonable to add rather than the t-14 Armata or any russian prototype. At least the U.S can stick to it’s word and actually deliver rather than making up lies of delivering and producing a new MBT while the rest of tanks in a “two week operation” (or however long they said it would take, and 4 years ongoing btw) blow up every day and just prove itself to be completely ineffective . Half of russia’s top tier air tree now and the near future have barely seen combat and have barely seen production btw. But sure give the superior stats to the nation that completely embarrasses itself infront of the world daily in a useless war rather than the nation that spends more on its military than some countries entire GDP and has seen combat and gone through successful operations.

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I think so. Besides that, there are already many bug reports about the Abrams’ gun mantlet being much thicker in real life, as is the turret ring.

Or Option 5. Force all players to undergo tutorials before playing

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MacArthur pfp, shitting on usa and on people for proving that usa is purposely nerfed, gets mad

oh my god you can’t make this up im crying of laughter

Okay, so if American players are so weak, why are they constantly getting nerfed? Shouldn’t it be the other way around?

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What nerfs?

and why should they get significantly better vehicles just to offset bad players?

Because the moment a competant player uses them, they just steamroll every match

Could you say that again, JUST the exact way you said it

The nerf is comprehensive. It starts with adding a turret basket, nerfing helicopters, and nerfing CAS. The USSR is constantly getting better helicopters, planes, tanks, and so on.

M1A2T in the Chinese tree is performing well above the average for 12.7 MBTs at the moment.

Why is that?

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The turret basket change was a pretty direct nerf and the M1A2T is not steamrolling matches you rarely see the tank since the average player isnt using it.

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A new tank, played by strong players and bloggers. And China rarely plays against the USSR.

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Which didnt just come to the US and in my experience fighting them, didnt change much

What nerfs?

At the moment, all helis are signficiantly overpefroming, LDIRCM should not be effective against IIR missiles and they should not be able to block every missiles fired at them, they should have a limit. They also have no meaningful radar signature and can “notch” way too easily.

let alone the gameplay aspect such as Spawn points being too close to the maps. Helis are in need of a lot of nerfs at the moment, all of them.

What nerfs?

One nation getting more and better stuff, isnt a nerf against the US, because by that logic, its a nerf against 9/10 nations.

So if the US isnt defacto number 1, its nerfed?

A nerf is like the fact they reduced the effectiveness of BOL significantly based upon false information and have spent the last 2 years ignoring the reports to fix it, all because the Gripen was doing a little too well when it was introduced and the US mains complained loads. But they nerfed everything and everyone with BOL and now only a few BOL carriers are in a healthy place at the moment

The US has two very old, nerfed Bradley IFVs. Their ATGMs and Bushmaster cannons are completely broken. I think we need to start fixing the US tree here. Inflated armor, poorly tuned armor, and a horsepower-to-weight ratio that’s inconsistent.
The US still has plenty of IFVs that the Gigin seem to ignore.

The best projectile is completely useless against Relikt armor. The US also needs a projectile that can destroy tanks as easily as they destroy it.

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The 2a7 and STRV already had better overall armor and a spall liner meaning the change would obviously hit them less, theirs also isnt disabled as easily.

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And you can safely remove the US tree from the game. And wait for 10-15 minutes for the USSR.

and those arent US exclusive weapons though. many nations use TOW and Bushmaster. Does that mean its a Britain nerf too because of the Desert Warrior? Yes, TOWs are buggy messes, but I dont see how that would massively buff the US specifically?

and again, that isnt unique to the US. US consistantly gets more vehicles than any other nation.

So is everyone else though? Why should the ONLY nation that can counter Relikit armour be US? Is it not a better solution to just nerf Relikit armour? Though the US can do it far more consistantly that a lot of other nation’s MBTs can

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Why do I only play against Soviet tanks in 99% of my battles? I never encounter the STR-V or the Leclerc. I don’t even know where to penetrate the Leclerc, it’s such a rare tank, because when France or Britain are waiting, it’s 1-2 against the Soviet players waiting in line, and 20-15 against the US and German players.

Tfw you’re one of the 3 Brit mains at 11.7 in the queue.

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US, USSR and Germany are the most popular nations, they usually always make up an entire team, the minor nations, dont get played as much and often just join one of the big 3.

But makes you think, if the French or British MBTs were so good, why do you never face them? Its because they are terrible compared to even the M1A2s. I see 0 point ever touching the 12.7 MBTs in Britain because its debatable whether either of them should even be above 12.0. I think an argument can be made to move the 11.7s down to 11.3 and the 12.7s down to 11.7 based upon the M1A1 being at 11.7