The US tree has fallen sharply in effectiveness in recent years. By all statistics, it’s the weakest nation in the game at the pre-top and top tiers.
Something needs to be done about this.
There are several options.
lol no.
Fixing/buffing the Abrams and other stuff should fix stuff here and there without putting a new round in the game or compressing BRs even more
Their MBTs definitely don’t have inflated BRs.
Just some bug fixing alone would be a massive buff to USA in particular.
Would that really help a lot? Seems like the biggest problem is the neck hole and im not sure if theres a lot that can be done there
Same problem as with other advanced shells, some tech trees that already are behind cant keep up with newer rounds.
Sep V3 with trophy would be a nice upgrade
Is there one the US could get thats top tier material?
Yeah US CAS really didnt keep up with the rest recently
Already have it.
Wouldn’t be fair for other nations.
And if you’re going to do this in a balanced fashion by providing all nations equal firepower upgrades, you’re back to complaining that the M1’s armour isn’t good enough.
M1A2 SEP v3 is pretty late to the party already, it definitely should’ve been added by now.
M1E2 could be interesting addition and the M1 Thumper (120) is another interesting option.
M1 CATTB (120) I’m not too sure about whether it would be pushing things a bit too far in the powercreep department.
Agreed:
IPM1 11.3 > 11.7
M1A1 11.7 > 12.0
M1A2, M1A1 HC, AIM, Click-Bait 12.0 > 12.3
Leopard 2 PSO, 2A6 12.7 > 12.3
T-72B3A 12.3 > 12.0
T-90M 12.7 > 12.3
Challenger 3 TD 12.0 > 11.7
Most top tier MBTs are underperforming considerably in this area. US tanks remain some of the higher survivability MBTs at the moment
Then everyone else needs equivalent shells. As it stands the US has the second best shell in-game already, only just narrowly beaten by DM53 from L/55. Though those guns have a 6 second reload, not the 5 the US has. To be strictly fair, the US should have a 6 second reload.
It already has one of the only top tier worthy IFVs, and a solid array of MBTs, yes its CAS weapons are little dated, but the aircraft themselves are fine. ARM will be an interesting addition when it comes
Yes, agreed, the Abrams need a BR increase to move them further away from far weaker MBTs at lower BRs. I do not understand how the M1A1 for example is still 11.7 and not 12.0 and the “early” M1A2s should probably be more like 12.3, including the clickbait
The funny thing is that the M1A2T in the chinese tech tree is doing very well at the moment.
55.1% win rate, 1.47 K/S and 1.6 K/D
Which is a lot better than the SEP V2 and SEP. So maybe the issue isnt the tanks, but the US Players?
And also, china usually ending up teaming on something else than USA. :D
Not to mention facing USA more common as enemy may result somewhat better KD also.
But yes, Usa teams usually sucks.
Yeah, M1A2T just needs a 1.0 BR increase as they dont play with the US handicap much :D
yep i agree with this look at the F-4E no look down or all aspect missiles but it faces the mig-23 which has both? please explain the logic
The Mig-23 has fewer missiles, a worse RWR, and it’s a higher BR because it is better.
lmao, also no.
An effectively chemical-protected tank on more than a 140° radius (even without its improved armor package) does NOT require a decrease in BR.
Nah, I would rather drop Usa MBT’s by 1, and also CAS planes by 1.
Then we could get back to time when USA dominated CAS games
LOL COPE
The Abrams should have a much LESS reload time, 4 - 3 seconds depending on crew level. There have been countless videos posted online and proof of loaders doing reloads in half of the time u want it to be. The 5 second reload rate is there only for balancing along with making sure that everyone who doesn’t play usa ends up crying because usa is just simiply better. You are just proof of what i said because you gave no reasonable or absolute explanation but "oh but it should have a 6 second reload guys!!! so unfair! "
You fix the turret ring, gun shield, and bulkead values, which are already accepted, for the Abrams and you fix 75 percent of the problems with the top US mbts. They already have all the infor needed to make the changes
Congratulations?
So do most manual loaders including the Leoaprd 2s, challenger 2s, etc
Ah, US main cope. Its just hilarious
Because weaker shells, such as L27A1, were balanced in-game by giving them a faster rate of fire. Higher pen shells, such as DM53 are balanced by giving them a slightly lower RoF.
Now you have Abrams, with the second best shell and 5 second reload, the balance no longer works. As it stands, the Challenger 2s should get a 4 second reload to compensate.
But of course, US mains suffer and must steam roll every match without effort
And so Leopard loaders on simulations.
The fact Gaijin has handed the US, Israel, Italy and GB (with the ready rack caveat) 5s reloads on aced crews its merely due to their inhability to properly model the armor of the mentioned nations vehicle series, not because their crews are better or worse than the Germans anyways.
