So the difference level between F3 (12.0) and F-15A (13.0) is near identical to the difference level between F-15C GE (14.3) and EFT AESA (14.3)?
Which is kinda half my point too, because it wouldnt change anything but is apparently absolutely critical for balance. I just dont think the F-15C GE is as bad as everyone keeps saying it is. I think its just being used wrong.
But the point still remains though, is it closer to the 14.3s or the few at “14.7”.
and what if the F-15C GE got Aim-120Ds alongside the Typhoon getting Meteor? Should they still be 0.3 Br different?
No?
Id say the difference between F-15C GE and EFT AESA is about the same as the difference between the F3 and the F-18A, maybe F-18C/Mig-29. And it wouldnt take much for the F3 to be 12.3 imo.
But that doesnt mean I cant fight well above my weight if needed (and I get a bit lucky)
its obviously closer to the 14.3 jets and if you think a .3 difference dosnt matter then why even argue so much against it, as you say it woundnt mean anything for the jets at 14.3
Meteor vs aim20D is kinda like hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby ngl lol
Because what about the weaker aircraft at 14.3?
Shouldnt they be 0.3 different to the F-15C GE?
Just seems like the buch seems to always stop with whatever the US have. Like they are the yard-stick for what is and isnt balanced these days. If its stronger than what the US have at that BR, its OP. If its weaker than what the US have, oh well, never mind.
Just seems to be the standard everywhere.
Which comes back quite nicely to this thread being about ground and the US top tier MBTs.
There is pros and cons.
Just because you can fire a Meteor further away, in game, it doesnt necessarily mean you want to. and the -120D probably is gunna be better at short range (like sub 10km) because it will be faster to target and probably pull a little better. And given the maps we’ve got. Meteor isnt going to be that significantly outranging anything. I think 120Ds LSZ is still about the average seperation we have top tier at the moment (Id guess 50-60km?)
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The F-15GE is only a problem in your imagination it has legit trade offs vs other 14.3 jets and isnt simple better than they, are unlike at 14.7 were it would simple be worse in every way.
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Can’t wait for the russians to get the R-77ME at the same time the typhoons get the meteor.
And yet when its the other way round, its never an issue.
Because F-15C/E vs things like the Gripen C or J-11A were perfectly fine and there was no reason to decompress…
Probably. Or R-37Ms
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There were legitimate tradeoffs though. J-11A was pretty buns though
are you on drugs did you just sleep though the grippen meta F-15E was meta for like 2 weeks my guy
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Such as?
I just recall a wall of F-15s up high, spamming missiles and just praying you could actually defeat them all.
There wasnt anything you could do to fight back, especailly as they could and would just run away.
F-15C was meta for like 6 months.
Way better FM, CM count and comparable/better RWR, it’s a light fighter vs heavy fighter, typical matchup. Just because it doesn’t match your play style doesn’t mean it’s not good
So like F-15C GE vs Typhoon then?
Not even close lol, GE vs EFT is miles worse
Well more like F-15J meta but the how long do you think the rafale meta has been?
So F-15C vs Gripen C was fine.
But F-15C GE vs Typhoon is not.
Got it. I see how this works.