US ground vehicle tree on top of the tree, needs a buff

Damn I know you weren’t the brightest, but you have even suprised me with this bad of a take.

you add 3 tons of weight to your tank. the SEPv2 with tusk has a 23 HP/ton while the SEPv2 without it has 24.1, which is noticable.

I’m sure the single game every 50-100 games where tusk proves to be useful is worth the reduced mobility in the other 49-99 games where it does nothing.

Again, the Abrams has every advantage in mobility, firepower and depression. So if you are in a position where the T-90M can shoot at you, you have already given up multiple of the Abrams advantages.

And the T-90M weakspots are pretty easy to hit, which is why good players usually clown on them in games with the Abrams. It’s generally only the worse/bad players that struggle against the T-90M, which is why it has such an overhyped reputation.

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Age means nothing when it comes to performance though. Abrams is easily the second best MBT in game…that is the fact. If Abrams needs massive buffs then what about everyone else. Can they get equal buffs to compete?

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But that’s kinda the point though. M1A2T was the best MBT of Dec 2025 despite that fact

For the M1A2T the situation might be the other way round sure but my comment was about the 14.3 jet data and its problems

Maybe. Though even looking at jets a lot of people should have already had spaded for months. The F15C GE still did fine.

The way US mains pretend it performs, youd think it was akin to the FA2

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In another thread someone pointed out that new top tier MBTs generally start out with higher stats and then drop in the weeks/months after. I think they used the Oplot and 2A6NL as examples. I’ll see if I can find the comment again.

This would further support that the initial stats are mostly from multi naton players and meta chasers playing it now more than the Chinese playerbase just being that much better.

EDIT:

Checking this and it is a trend also seen on the MSC, Oplot, T-72B3A and VT-4. Which were most of the new high/top tier TT MBTs added this year.

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Sure they overdramatize a bit (like everyone does) but id still be careful putting the GE on the same pedestal as the AESA EFTs, Rafale and SU30SM2. Right now the GE just screams SU30 but worse in every regard

Top tier ground grind is slow as balls so i wouldnt be surprised if the initial december stats contain not a lot of the average chinese playerbase and the stats drop in january

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Yeah it’s slow and the christmas period is also a time where a lot of casual players generally have slightly less time to play on top of that.

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What do you mean? I thought no one had anything to do in christmas time which is why we get 3 event vehicles with a soul crushing grind just then. /s
Nah but for real id wait for the January stats to assess how much of the taiwanese abrams performance is playerbase dependent

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I measured it, and the difference is minimal. You’ll arrive 1 second faster. Because the Abrams quickly reaches 40 mph.

It saves me in almost every game. Especially from LMURs and Whirlwind missiles. And from all sorts of autocannons.

What mobility? The Abrams is slower than the T-80BVM. The Abrams used to be the fastest, and it had mobility. Now many MBTs outpace it.

The T-90M’s armor is buggy, especially with its relic. It often doesn’t penetrate damage, or my shell doesn’t do any damage because of the spall liner. Is the fact that the T-90M has no weak points other than its lower glacis plate even a joke to you?

And this happens all the time.

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Lmurs are pretty much fully top attack, so I’m going to massively doubt that.

Which is why most people have long concluded that your aim is questionable. At least 70-80% of the time I one shot enemy T-90Ms.

Lower plate, drivers hatch and mantlet.

The latter 2 are already 2 extra weakspots over the LFP.

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That’s nonsense. Hitting the right pixel when the tank is moving and turning is incredibly difficult. As a Soviet player, aiming for the Abrams is a simple matter: just shoot everything below the turret or just the center.

Difficult for YOU. That highlighted part is the main point here. I’m not lying when I say that I one shot the T-90M the majority of the time (excluding when I’m just blindly shooting through smokes).

That is probably why most of my top tier Abrams sit between 1.6-2.8K/D wise while you barely go positive in only the SEPv2.

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I just finished a fight and TUSK saved me. Before that, Leclerc shot me in the side, but because of TUSK there weren’t enough fragments.

No it’s not noticeable, and even if u can feel it the difference is so minimal it isn’t even considered an advantage, tusk ii looks cool + saves me from autocanon fire and missiles pretty often.
Terminators have had a harder time killing me instantly in the side cause of tusk ii, mainly cause their stupid and dont know where to aim but it actually helps more than people think.

And the abrams isn’t made for holding W and rushing into the battle hoping for the best, the abrams works best when playing defensive and strategic, therefore the very very minor difference in speed makes NO difference

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Like I said, I have 400 games in my SEPv2 and I can count about 20 or so times where it saved me.

Meanwhile I lost count of the amount of times where the worse mobility either got me killed or caused me to miss good opportunities.

Actually the Abrams is a really great offensive tank. Just because a tank simply can’t hold W doesn’t mean it’s bad offensively.

The Abrams is a solid close range tank too if you have even a little bit of crosshair placement.

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Well i have almost 900 games and almost 1000 respawns in sep v2 and i can say tusk ii have saved me countless times.

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Yeah like you wouldn’t die cause you got 0.5s increase in reverse speed💔

What i meant by that was that you cant hold w rush in to battle pull of a crazy flank or smth like you could in t80bvm, and the tiny difference between tusk ii on and off helps in no way.

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Opportunities also include getting kills because my tank was too slow to accelerate due to TUSK.

If I im in a position where I get shot in the sides by a BMPT in my M1A2s at close range I already made multiple mistakes that didn’t have to happen.

The SEPv2 with TUSK II just feels sluggish in pretty much every other way as well like turning, accelerating from 0 and climbing.

I wouldnt go that far.

Ingame, for air battles, at ranges where the combat happens, with threat it faces, theres one practical difference to Pratorian, that being coverage from directly above and below.

Praetorian coverage:
Praetorian coverage
An/ALR-56C coverage:

Otherwise?

MSIP

praetoria

70km vs 100km range? With warthunder maps and range of all current ingame missiles?

E-J band vs. C-K band? Both can detect the I band which is what matters as thats the band that all ARHs are running on, as well as R-27ER, CAPTOR-E, N035, Thales RBE2 AESA, MICA…

E2K
It has almost the exact same threat recognition as Praetorian, with odd difference that it has extra warning light for Air Intercept track and SAM track.

Ground battles might be different story but im assuming from the few messages ive read from your exchange with quartas that its related to air to air combat so…

Sep v2 is still faster then leopard 2a7v WITH TUSK II equipped 🫩 so please don’t tell me you think abrams is slow…

So you’re telling me you made a mistake if a BMPT’s are rushing ur spawn?

Okay if u think so…