Typhoobn has limitations, sure. Not denying that. But US mains seem to operate on the idea that
“Made in US” = “best in the world by a significant margin”
Which is just nonsense.
In most actual real world situations, a euro-delta is more cost effective and more capable.
Take this thread. Can basically be summed up as “Abrams isnt the best, therefore, its underperforming”
Su57 is more useful than a f35.
euro deltas decorate the ground IRL while F-35’s dogwalk modern air defence networks.
only winning in games
So… What happened to that Israeli F-35?
You have also identified the single thing the F-35 can actually do. SEAD. Everything else, its average at best
But if you wanted to provide sustained CAS over target, why pick an F-35?
Its got way less weapon carrying capacity, meaning less time on station
they beat the air defence there
ah so you admit the typhoon is only good for fighting less than peer threats like insurgencies since this is the same logic used for A-10 over F-35
Minus the one that got shot down
Okay, so the F-35 is good for SEAD. What else then?
In A2A, its weaker than the Typhoon.
In providing sustained CAS. its weaker than the Typhoon.
In QRA, its weaker than the Typhoon.
in air policing, heck, its weaker than the Typhoon
Please, tell me why the F-35 is the best aircraft in the world. because so far. its a stealth jet. Thats litereally it, thats all its got going for it. Take that away. Its barely an upgrade over the F-16
I get it, US Mains cant cope they arent OP. And we all know, US mains have major skill issues. Heck, the F-15C GE would probably have a terrible K/D at 13.0 :D
cope lol, that did not happen
even european news says it isnt true Iran admits false claim that Israeli F-35 jets were shot down in 12-day conflict | Euronews
take away the eurofighter’s flight performance
Then it still has more missiles, better missiles, better radar, just as capable defensive suite, better A2G weapons, more A2G weapons, etc etc
Less payload mean a need of more plane.
More plane mean more money.
Each is around 120m, compared to a gripen with 40m
if its so much better it should win more contracts outside of the creator nations
Yep. F-35 is just a bad investment unless you really really want the stealth.
Stealth where a push of a button can kill the jets and never fly again lol
that 40m is very optimistic for even the Gripen C lol.
isnt F-35 unit cost more like $80m for an F-35A too?
Again, Geopolitical pressure.
Though Austria, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and turkey have all chosen Typhoon over F-35
Portugal the last I heard was also considering Typhoon over F-35.
Croatia, Egypt, greece, india, indonensia, qatar, UAE and Serbia have picked the Rafale
Brazil, Czech, Hungary, South Africa and Thailand have chosen the Gripen C/E over the F-35. Canada is considering the Gripen E.
So more nations operate one of the 3 Eurocanards than operate the F-35 and many nations have canceled F-35 orders, including several who opted for Eurocanard over it.
So again, I ask. What makes the F-35 so unbelievably good? Because the more I learn about it, the more of a gimmick it seems to be, and when the 6th gens arrive, it will be totally obsolete aircraft
don’t know the specifics but yeah it dropped quite a bit, probably due to all the orders.
You mean the Israeli F-35 that got “shot down” and was posted online by Iran? Where they admitted it was fake? The obvious AI photos were the F-35 was the size of a neighborhood? Cmon man you’re better than that.
This is little cope
I wouldn’t say Euro canards decorated the ground as this planes have very advanced radars weapons and sensors they are not old mig 21s
I also wouldn’t say the F35 would dog walk modern air defence systems its not immortal and immune to everything it can be spoted and taken down like everything else
last time I checked Indonesia was interested in the F-35 first and then went for the Rafale after they got denied.
Then they seem to have went the "screw logistics anyway"mode.
You can still can get 2 for one f35 price