Yeah both should get their respective IIR’s when IIR a2a is added
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Seems like Morvran here wants every single feature on the Eurofighter, but doesn’t like it when someone else likes their plane to have those too
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Tough luck, the J-20 is almost certainly getting PL-15’s
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Who knows what they will do. At this point, I dont think they really care about technical compatibility with loadouts anymore
Chinese players just lack skill.
The M1A2 SEPV2 is probably the oldest tank in the top tier. It’s almost 20 years old, built in 2007. I think the SEPV3 should have been introduced along with the T-90M.
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Age means bugger all for balance. Otherwise, why is the F-117 at 8.7 and not 11.7?
Or do you think the F-15A should be 10.3 because its an older aircraft?
The difference between 120C5s and 120Ds is not small. They’re entirely different. In addition, as I’ve said before, 5th gens should sit higher in BR than 4.5s. You’re making your own issues and suggesting balance opportunities to fix them, long before it even gets added.
So strong missiles greatly impact a jets performance, and a lack thereof greatly inhibits it from being successful? Also, I was going by KDR, not winrate. What it faces shouldn’t impact it that much, especially considering the MICA is rather poor at longer ranges.
It’s actually below all of them except the German ones. The Super Hornet is also at the very bottom.
Unrelated whataboutism. These are not mutually exclusive, and two things can be true at the same time. The difference is that very few people play naval, so the pool of vehicles people will play is obviously much lower. It is blatantly ahistorical, which is its biggest issue. A better example is how the USA performed at top tier when it had the only 14.0 or when it was one of very few nations without a 14.3 for the better part of a year.
No, I mean like how 1. it’s not getting missiles no one else will have and 2. it will be released when counters exist. The F-15E steamrolled so much on release because it could pull 9Gs at above mach 2.5 without losing speed, thanks to overperforming engines. Like you said, RCS can be adjusted as well. I’m not arguing for it to have a 15km detection range, nor am I arguing for it to be handicapped beyond reason.
Not every nation is going to always be the top. Not rumors either — this was passed to the devs, it’s now up to them whether or not to add it, and I would bet money that they will. What other 5th gen could they realistically add for European nations?
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1.3 higher, then sure, but 0.3/0.7 higher like they probably will be, then it could be a major issue.
Typhoon with Meteor vs F-22 with Aim-120C5 to Aim-120C8s assuming the F-22 couldnt be engaged at any kind of meaningful range, might be semi balanced.
Typhoon with Meteor vs F-22 With Aim-120D with the same range limit for the Typhoon, probably wouldnt be balanced.
I dont understand why that is so hard for you to get.
and going by K/D
F-15C GE is performing better than Germany AESA Typhoon. 1.05 vs 1.03 and a LOT better than the M-Scan German Typhoon at 0.91.
Britains AESA Typhoon is doing well, becuase it doesnt face the OP rafale too much in ARB. But Italian AESA Typhoon is sitting right where it should.
So clearly the Typhoon isnt actually that far off balanced compared to what it faces, they just need to tweak the MM.
Or how it performed for half a year when no one else had an equal to the F-15C or F-15E. The US mains fought like crazy to deny the Typhoon being added, it was hilarious.
No it cant be added until they add the F-15C MSIP II… No we meant the F-15E… No we meant the F-18E…
This is Gaijin, they will probably bow to US mains complaining and it will get buffed. Then all the Gen 5s will get buffed to keep them “fair” and the 4.5s will get screwed.
Exactly, but my god, the US mains complain the loudest when they arent meta.
The rumoured leak suggests that the F-22, J-20 and Su-57 would be added first. with Gen 4.5s getting missiles buffs and then F-35 added to most other nations later. Germany seems to be getting screwed though.
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Its not, thats just a fact. I know. Gunna hurt some US main feelings that think the earth revolves around the F-35, but its stupidly niche aircraft that is no where near as good as it should have been for how overpriced it was.
Yet it beat the EFT and Rafale in most of the european nations F-16 replacement programs.
I guess that is still a bit of a hard pill to swallow for the EFT nations.
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It replaced the Harrier for Britain, and is semi-replacing the Tornado for Germany. Though Germany is also replacing some Tornados with more Typhoons
Portugal looks to be probably be going to something else instead of F35 as is Canada.
F-35 is not replacing the Gripen, Typhoon or Rafale for any nation that operates those aircraft, instead older airframes like the Tornado and Harrier. I wonder why?
F-35 orders for European nations have been extremely limited. Especially given the US keeps screwing them over by breaking their contracts
accept the stealthpill
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because most nations buy the eurocanards around the same time as others buy the F-35, most countries cant spend that much so they dont buy 2 seperate modern airframes
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Denmark, Norway, Netherlands and Belgium all replaced their F-16s with F-35s.
Poland is going with the F-35.
Switzerland and Portugal would have went with the F-35s if certain US politcal figures (not naming anyone to prevent a yeet to the shadowrealm) would stop shooting their MIC in the foot.
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Right, so instead they buy the more adaptable Eurocanrads
for most of them the US govt would block the sales. they are a lot more restrictive on the F-35 than Europeans are with their jets, if not for that then no one would be buying eurocanards other than for budget reasons
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yet most european nations don’t go for said eurocanards when replacing their older airframes.
Okay? And?
They replaced F-16s with F-35s.
Still doesnt mean the F-35 is actually that good an aircraft.
It has stealth. Thats about it. Most of what it does, isnt actually that special.
but all those things together put it above the competiton
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And the Americans are also known for using politcal pressure to force nations into buying their equipment