Yep. F-35 is just a bad investment unless you really really want the stealth.
Stealth where a push of a button can kill the jets and never fly again lol
that 40m is very optimistic for even the Gripen C lol.
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isnt F-35 unit cost more like $80m for an F-35A too?
Again, Geopolitical pressure.
Though Austria, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and turkey have all chosen Typhoon over F-35
Portugal the last I heard was also considering Typhoon over F-35.
Croatia, Egypt, greece, india, indonensia, qatar, UAE and Serbia have picked the Rafale
Brazil, Czech, Hungary, South Africa and Thailand have chosen the Gripen C/E over the F-35. Canada is considering the Gripen E.
So more nations operate one of the 3 Eurocanards than operate the F-35 and many nations have canceled F-35 orders, including several who opted for Eurocanard over it.
So again, I ask. What makes the F-35 so unbelievably good? Because the more I learn about it, the more of a gimmick it seems to be, and when the 6th gens arrive, it will be totally obsolete aircraft
don’t know the specifics but yeah it dropped quite a bit, probably due to all the orders.
You mean the Israeli F-35 that got “shot down” and was posted online by Iran? Where they admitted it was fake? The obvious AI photos were the F-35 was the size of a neighborhood? Cmon man you’re better than that.
This is little cope
I wouldn’t say Euro canards decorated the ground as this planes have very advanced radars weapons and sensors they are not old mig 21s
I also wouldn’t say the F35 would dog walk modern air defence systems its not immortal and immune to everything it can be spoted and taken down like everything else
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last time I checked Indonesia was interested in the F-35 first and then went for the Rafale after they got denied.
Then they seem to have went the "screw logistics anyway"mode.
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You can still can get 2 for one f35 price
That only if europe manages to actually produce a single prototype without scrapping whole programs out of pure bureaucracy, while the US is already on its way to finish production of its first F-47 :P
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Again, massive doubt.
its the other way around, geopolitical pressure is working against the F-35 yet it almost always wins when it isnt blocked by politics.
most of those countries are either blocked from F-35 or have faced major political issues preventing them from getting the F-35. so it actually proves my point.
again, just politics and not capability
yeah bc LM isnt allowed to sell them F-35 or they already got the inferior jets by the time F-35 was available to them.
the actual Canadian military considers the F-35 far superior
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Doesn’t Indonesia operate both Eastern and Western planes? Same reason we denied Turkey, because they operate Russian SAMs. We strictly do not sell F-35s to countries that operate Russian equipment as to not reveal the true RCS.
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not immortal but a hell of a lot more survivable than a eurocanard
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for some reason he cant understand that for most eurocanard operators outside of europe, they only got them because they arent allowed to have F-35’s
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Cant speak of the German one, But I think Britain, italys and Japans stands a good chance because Japan will beat the MoD into submission quite happily.
Though GCAP is actually expected to have a flying prototype a year ahead of the Americans, but inservice a few years afterwards.
But its gunna be close
Hasn’t the F-47 flown since ~2020 iirc?
edit: prototypes
youve got it mixed up. the 2028 F-47 first flight is for the actual F-47 not a prototype
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Quick google, All i could find was was first flights in 2028. With entry into service slated for about 2030
GCAP is supposed to make its maiden flight in 2027, but its got a slower roll out, likely to be more like 2030-2035