Most issues are specifically on the f4u4b, bcz of the union of open cockpit, maneuverability, and precise and powerful cannons, which leaves you very vulnerable even when b&z and high yoyos with great energy as he can snipe you very easily( and, you guessed it, you can’t hit him because he hears you)
The F4U-4 and other American planes are harder to fight for axis players because they are accustomed to US planes that have abysmal climb rates; just doing a lazy upwards ascending turn is basically an automatic win against something like an F4U-1 or P-47 D-22. Also earlier German planes also have a much more obvious advantage in turn rates.
The whole point of showing gameplay is to prove the point that I am not arguing about things that are purely theoretical. I do not play one nation or one plane exclusively.
The other point showcases that MG151 does more than adequate damage. It’s a little lacking right now compared to other 20mm cannons since the realshatter buff changes…but that isn’t because Mg.151 damage got reduced…every other 20mm received effectively a massive damage buff.
Your whole initial post is filled with a bunch of conclusions that you had jumped to; especially regarding the performance of the F4U-4. A dogfight between late model 109G and F4U-4 is basically dead even for Enduring Confrontation purposes and the winner is going to be based on pilot skill and starting position.
This is a much more balanced matchup than Bf.109F-4 vs F4U-1 where even if 109 is in bad position it can pretty easily secure turn rate and energy advantage where only card F4U-1 has to play is ability to dive and run away.
In a pure 1v1 scenario between experienced players something like the Bf.109 has the ability to abuse it’s power to weight ratio against F4U-4. The only real chance F4U-4 has is by being extremely aggressive and pulling for early shot after the merge.
Most Bf.109 players are not aggressive enough so they give aggressive US players free position to the extent that they can’t just turn out of it or use power to weight ratio. Most common tactic of 109 players is lazy ascending turn which only works if opponent has already bled off their energy.
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There are several 100 types of aircraft in the game. Are you going to endlessly discuss every single plane now?
is this a competition to see who has the greater technical expertise? we are all just players moving pixels from a to b here.
Are there no major construction sites in the game? Basic problems with maps, scenarios, AI units… and much more.
Something is wrong. See what happens in the rooms…F4U pilots with +10 kills and few “deaths” in several. Corsairs and XP-50 pilots sweeping everyone VERY easily.
The XP-50 has performance that is very similar to the Bf.109 F-4 and shares the same battle rating.
Also players with 10 kills and no deaths are usually working together in a team or they just have a lot of experience.
It is not. As @Metrallaroja said, the in game F4U-4 is modeled with 1945 settings, from WW2.
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Then f4u 4 should be set to 5.7 and the other monster friend should be set to f4u 4b 6.
edit: I am in favor of regulating aircraft such as the fw 190 d13. It can be pulled to 5.7.
The F4U-4B is significantly superior to the F4U-4, with much better performance due to a significantly more powerful engine and superior firepower as well.
There should not be just a 0.3 BR difference between these two aircraft.
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:) Even though it is not among the WW2 planes, the rest does not concern me much.
But I know that plane is a UFO.
You have never touched a single US plane according to the statistics on your account.
So unless you have created multiple accounts, you do not have a good idea of how these planes perform.
Keep in mind, making multiple accounts is against Gaijin’s terms of service:
3.4. The User shall not create multiple Accounts.
You thoroughly refute the cope. If they spent as much effort in improving their flying as they do in generating excuses in the forum, then they would not be succumbing to fighters in battles as frequently.
You have nothing to offer other than reducing the issue to whether you know the game or not.
See, I wasn’t alone in this. Most friends who currently play simulation battles know me.
A gang on the forum is promoting injustice with the support of the management and the game producers.
you know, friends. Keep playing with bombers.
You can only console yourself by destroying the bombers and planes that came into service in 44 years with the superior performance machines of 46 47 48 49 years.
I don’t have any friends. Haha, the important thing is not the friend, look, people call f4u 4b a ufo.
They have exactly the same thought. The same problem applies to d30. Valid within c 10. c10’s br should be at least 4.7, your friend called d30 should be at least 5.7. Frankly, I would not have a problem if the BR 5.7 in the D13 was upgraded from other axis planes.
Those tests you did were also intentional. I can’t see the high speed rotation graph in them. You know, like the BF109 with its tail locked. I can’t see the effects of high speeds on the graphics. Keep playing like Robocop. You can only create perception here. Most of the graphs you put up have no practical meaning. You can also use cheats, though I wouldn’t be surprised. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone who is so passionate about dueling uses cheats.
no problem. f4u 4 entered service in early 1945. Now let’s be enlightened by specifying the months March, April and May.
Yes my friend, you are admitting it with your own language again, this corsair f4u-4 br must be 5.7. Not 5.3. Even though the game focuses on modern vehicles, even if intermediates are released, it should be higher than 5.7.
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it’s beginning to get on my nerves. there are so many basic problems in sim mode:
- too few spaces
- bad functions to start battles
- terrible nation lineups
- economy, usefull action
- problems with the AI units
- problems with foresight
…and more.
so please just stop with this nonsense here.
I don’t like people who talk like they’re neutral.
But there are so many crazy people here that they say g14 and d30 are at the same level. The tests that have been carried out supposedly show no difference between these with their flashy graphics, and they even claim that the performance of these old model planes is better than the new model planes. (He immediately started working while writing a comment to the other friend)
These guys have officially become a gang here. I have struggled a lot with people with this type of character problem.
Even vehicles that create instability in the game can be removed from accessibility. like panther 2.
Look, he started his job again.
He also shamelessly accused him of being a Nazi fan or something. IMMORAL PERSON.
I ask the moderators to give the necessary punishment to this dishonorable person.
If it were up to immoral people like you, F86s wouldn’t cause any problems. Again, about that, he adds, “Since F86 rotates worse at low speeds, BF 109s can easily fight with it” and he also adds graphics below, here you go, there is no error in the game, you don’t know how to play, bla bla bla.
If it were up to our friend, who is a member of the forum gang and has mental problems like this, Leopard 1 Panther D might come across him. Because Leopard 1’s armor is weak and it can be fought easily, he does not see any problems with this.
I say again, the producers are spoiling these.
Although I noticed a new game on Steam (or not ?), I guess they have a new game in the works. If there is a game in which such imbalances are eliminated, the transition can be made. This friend can experience pleasure and orgasm instead of hunting g6s and 14s with d30.
OK, then I’ll discuss it now too :D
You don’t have to calculate the P-51 D-30 in horsepower but in camelpower. so 30% more over the desert
ok, joking aside :) so Bf 109 G: we have several airworthy Bf 109s here in Germany. an E-4, a G-6, two extremely modified aircraft with Rolls Royce engines and two more with Rolls Royce engines were converted by the Messerschmitt Foundation with Daimler Benz engines. Unfortunately I only have books and links in German.
there is extensive flight experience. Even the G-6 engine is so powerful that it pushed the testers into their seats more than expected. Don’t underestimate your Bf 109
Keep in mind that in War Thunder the aircraft are changed update after update after update. the current aircraft are just a snapshot.
So there is no reason to insult each other here.
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The man defends an injustice that is clearly evident in the game, as if he is playing us for fools, by filling it with graphics that are practically worthless and documents that reveal his own deception. This is a situation that I cannot stand.
When all the manipulation he has done is revealed, it is not enough and he takes things to insulting levels by saying that there is no gasoline in the Luftwaffe and that he is a Nazi.
The man has such a talent for manipulation that he can make us believe that the BF 109 K4 and F86 are equal, and that the F86 is actually a worse plane than the K4 because it cannot turn at low speeds, and therefore the K4 is actually a better plane. Joseph Gobbels is a rookie compared to this guy.
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you insult him but also violently my friend.
Yes. His skullcap fell off and he looked bald.
Didn’t we send you a link? My friend hasn’t seen d30 ww2. d20 and 25 saw combat. Didn’t it even say in the article we linked to that these planes were used in the Korean War?
I don’t understand what these moderators do. The man constantly insults me and shamelessly calls me a Nazi fan. How many times do I have to complain for it to be rewarded?
Now he started insulting. Because you’re out of arguments. You can bray as much as you want. There is obvious injustice.
I even need to open a topic about tanks. A device called EBR 1954 was added to the tank simulation between 4 and 5. Everyone knows that speed is everything in tank simulation battles. Although they also added a tool called pt76, which is still active at the time.
I’m tired of dealing with these brats.
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If the P-51 D-5 and P-51 D-20 were given their 150 octane fuel and historically accurate 75 inches of manifold pressure then their in-game performance would be identical to the P-51 D-30. I’ve gone over this dozens of times with you…but you deliberately misunderstand the point.
Your first post in this thread was calling me a slur. Stop trying to play the victim.
This topic is not about tanks at all. The only reason you keep bringing it up is to feed your sense of victimization. It has nothing to do with anything that has been mentioned in this thread.
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