Dont even get what the issue is…
All nations will be uptiered when you start…you are 1.0 so game matches versus 1.3 and 1.7…2.0 on occasion.
As you move up it becomes better as game has more opponents “below you”…and usually 1.0 tanks can kill 1.3s and 1.7s…usually also 2.0s.
As you move up, there are some annoying tanks that dominate BRs and will be tough when you are uptiered…BUT usually those are on both teams…so you just get out of the way and go look for something you can kill…and someone else will deal with it.
Good example were Char B1s…they can be a nuisance if top tier as they are hard to kill…usually you will need something with a big gun…and aim at sides or weakspots (dont recall the specifics, but it was possible).
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From what I remember when it was changed you had a far worse MM as in one team consisting of only 7,7 and 8.0´s vs. 7,0 and 7,3´s. The idea behind the change was that out of 10 games 2,5 of them you´d be toptier, what didnt went into that calculation was the drag of BR blackholes that constantly suck you up into uptiers.
Prime example of this would be 11.3 F-4J, constantly gets sucked up into 12.3 and rarely into 10.3. Additionally to this there are planes at the same or lower BR with better radar or missiles.
im an advocate that you get uptiers a LOT of the time… at least 70%… there is no way in hell you played SIXTY games and havnt been in a full down tier. You are either mistaken, or exaggerating.
I’m at BR 3 when that shot was taken. I’ve still never been top tier.
I switched over to the Germans where I’m at BR 6.5 and still was never top tier for 9 games straight.
Yes and no. If I play aircraft, it’s a mixed bag of top and bottom tier. If I play tanks, I’m always at the bottom no matter what. It’s been three weeks since the last time I remember being top tier, and that was (no, I’m not going conspiracy theory here) as the Russians at BR 7.7.
And I ate the 6.5 Germans alive all game long with complete immunity.
First 4 games today, all bottom tier. 3.0 M4 having to constantly fight 4.0 T34’s is just beyond the pale ridiculous.
EDIT TO ADD:
And I hate to be “that guy”, but I got so frustrated I went to the Russians, built a 3.7 BR list of vehicles and PRESTO! Instant top tier, instant domination, instant win.
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Yes, these are pretty infuriating. So I’m sharing a lifehack.
Every time I’m uptiered 1BR, I’m quitting either before the game starts or after the first death.
Yes, I’m one of these disdained one-death-quitters.
I’m not yet ripe to leave the game completely, but not going to waste my life on unpleasant matches either
Uptiers is purely mental. I took my 10.7 accidentally to a 11.7 match, got top score. Also got many other top scores with being up tiered. I’d welcome Uptiers as you met much more xp
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I’d think as it’s been voiced, majority of which do not like the idea of it. From what I have seen and heard, majority of new potential players end up quitting because they feel they aren’t progressing, they get the false idea of the game, or do not feel they are making any kind of difference because of these things. Majority of which who are recruited leave within the first week of playing. War Thunder isn’t meant for everyone but when majority feel the game has a different feeling to it than what is being portrayed, they feel avoidance to it. I understand where the BR range comes in due to how the game is matched but at the same time, it also damages the level of trust or enjoyance for the average player with the game unless they are good at the game, which not everyone is either. It is starting to feel more catered towards you essentially as the kids say, or adults, or whoever, “Getting good” for a video game, than actually having fun anymore. We can look at all these other mainstream titles and say the same for them too and not just War Thunder but the whole idea of this game so far to the average new player is just throwing meat into a meat grinder. Majority of those I know refuse to play because of this as well as other ideas which may not be true but feel like they are true.
Sure, you cannot disrupt the balance of something already in place without consequences but even the consequences have consequences. I appreciate the changes made so far but I had to make the shift to air battles and avoid ground because I cannot stand having to face those with 8000+ hours who know every inch of the map compared to me. I am already dumb enough, I can’t learn every single corner and the exact size of a wall, hahaha. Arcade exists yes, but majority of players essentially bully people into playing realistic which is unfair for them because players should play what they want and because of this, nobody plays Arcade and higher up takes more than 5 minutes in a queue to get in anymore.
I get it, I really do, and the things happen for reasons, but it is rather displeasing anymore when you want to enjoy something but simply cannot because you aren’t some god at manipulating pixels like the guy who has all the time in the world in his hands. I tried to be as constructive with this to see from both sides but the moral of this is that we can’t have everything. But we sure can at least voice it as civil as we can.
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This is bullshit. Tiger H1 (5.7) has little-to-no chance against T26E1-1 (6.7). For T26 its a free kill, actually.
nah there are some extremely problematic uptiers where you are at a massive disadvantage.
wut?
Tell me you are a noob/incompetent, without telling me.
You have absolutely NO idea what you are talking about. Both of those proposed vehicles are Very evenly matched… and the Tiger is a full BR lower than the T26E1-1. , which it shouldnt be, but whatever… my point is you do not know what you are talking about.
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lmao? you are the one that has no idea, Tiger1 is nowhere near as good as T26E1 overall
ugh… i was gunna type up a whole thing… but i dont feel like it… especially for something this stupid
But the Key factors are… the Tiger H1 can fire basically Twice in the same time in takes the T26E1-1 to reload… so that is a HUGE factor… That and if you angle the tiger properly it can bounce the T26E1-1 shell, and then shoot it nearly twice before it reloads…
So yes… the vehicles are basically the Same strength/powerful. Overall (which is a word YOU used, incorrectly, since Overall, they are very evenly matched, both 1 on 1 and against others. )
Ive fought as the Tiger H1 and the T26E1-1 , Plenty of times… If the T26E1-1 misses or does little/no damage. hes pretty screwed, since his reload is so long.
so the reload is faster, cool, such is the case for a m3a3 too.
They are not equal.
T26E1 also can never bounce on Tiger 1 if the T26 knows how to aim.
Clown tier opinion
“T26E1 also can never bounce on Tiger 1 if the T26 knows how to aim.”
that is not true AT ALL. Not only Can it bounce it… it happens Very often… So you are simply Wrong.
and then youre saying more dumb shit by bringing up the m3a3. The Tiger H1 and the T26E1 have Very similar penetrating main rounds. So again… you are exaggerating and just wrong.
You clearly have Very limited knowledge on both of these vehicles, especially the Tiger H1
right… that doesnt mean jack shit.
Yes, it Can pen, but in game, things do not go as planned, plus, even if it Does pen, it can do things like only kill the driver. or the engine, at which point. .the tiger and aim and fire … Twice.
So again… you are wrong. Just stop… You are embarrassing yourself.
lmao clown tier takes proven wrong already, go away moron/troll (you can pick)
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said the prick