The f18e is a strong contender
It has more missiles but the flight model is ass
And RL its even subsonic at ground level
Even the F-104G can lack flares at BR 10.7.
The F-104G/S/TAF, etc., need a lower battlerating after all the FM nerfs that happened about a year ago. These planes pose no challenge when I see them on opposing teams, and it’s evident in their stats and player ratings. The F-104G/S need a snail’s attention; they’re completely forgotten fighters :(
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The Panzer IV moves doesn’t make any sense to me.
Can you please for the love of everything lower the F18 premiums down to 12.3
No HMD vs everything with HMD
No Fox 3s vs everything with fox 3s
Hardly any down tiers
Stuck with Aim 9Ls
12.3 would fit every F18 premium stuck at 12.7
Bad idea—the F/A-18A tech tree in 12.3 is already very strong at this tier. The C version lets you carry significantly more Fox 1 missiles with data link, and you can load more AIM-9Ls, which work great as an iron dome for shooting down enemy missiles at ranges under 10 km (the ideal combination in my opinion is to take 5x AIM-7P / 4xAIM-9L).
For planes like the Premium Hornets or Premium F-2A ADTW, their battle rating isn’t the issue—they have a good one. The problem is BR compression. Gaijin should have reduced the BR spread for individual aircraft from +/- 1.0 to 0.7 +/- a long time ago, so that a 12.3 doesn’t face a 13.3 or a 12.7 doesn’t face a 13.7, and extend the battle rating range to ~15.7–16.7—that would be perfect.
Gaijin, the problem is that the battle rating is too compressed; that’s where you need to start.
PS:
The day before yesterday I started a battle with an F-16A (ARB) which is on BR 12.3 - of course, a draw with full up-tier and full premium SU-30s which bombarded me with PL-12/R-77s xD I dodged a few missiles but eventually one got me… The entire battle came down to avoiding Fox 3 where I had practically no window to attack… HOW ON EARTH does an F-16A without radar missiles have to fight on BR 13.3? It’s a blatant shot in the foot by the game developers…
N E E D D E C O M P R E S S I O N.
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Time for shameless plug
TL;DR its perfectly fine where it is
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Were are the fox 3 and hmd on the British phantoms?
BMPT will still ruin 10.7 and above lol nothing changed, either remove it or put that vehicle to 13.7 or something
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Now I will preface this, that I am not a fan of the IKV 103 and I am not a Swedish main but I find it really bizarre that you are planning to remove it’s heat round.
Seriously I hated playing this vehicle, its bulky, slow to turn, the gun horizontal slew is horrendous, there is no MG and it can be 50 cal’d easily from any angle.
The ONLY thing it had was the heat round, which if you had no clear line of sight to your target (tree, fence, magic wall) was only effective 50% of the time (like most heat) when it hit a target. So if you didn’t get a decent hit, you would just get machine gunned to death or laughed at and then killed.
Very, very weird decision.
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Id rather see it go up in BR than a reload nerf.
Except it doesnt appear to have a Protective cap, just a ballistic one, which doesnt have any direct impact on penetration.
Nah the 18E fits the meta much more. More missiles, more CMs and a better AESA radar (PoBIT has the worst AESA above 14.0).
The flight model advantage of the PoBIT is negligable, since the overwhelming majority of the 14.3s will still be considerably faster.
I hate saying this as I love hating on the Super Hornet, but having played both the PoBIT is easily worse in this meta by quite a bit.
Its not BR 3.0 its already at 3.7
Tho i agree with Rank III.
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Bruh, that thing is an open topped TD, with limited traverse, average speed and armor not even thick enough for Cal. .50 and you want to put it next to the Medium tanks. 💀
Instead of its intender role as an Uptier Aid for the lower BRs. Its a glass cannon.
Still 12.3~13.3 is plagued by Su-30MKK/MK2, at this point I’m giving up dreaming about gaijin actually making balanced BR system since the most obvious overpowered machines are premium.
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The f18e also has the horrible trust to weight ratio
Pretty sure you have to go down to 13.7 to find something worse(ignoring the f18f)
So any rate or energy fights are over before even starting
I used the Japanese one all the way to 6.0 until I got the Japanese Bulldog lol
SAV 20.12.48 should stay at 3.7
Honestly, I think the SAV 20.12.48 is fine where it is. It’s a unique, trolly little thing but it definitely doesn’t outperform its counterparts. I actually do way better in basic stuff like the Sherman, Chaffee, or Pz IV.
It’s one of those “glass cannon” vehicles that looks terrifying on paper because of the rof, but in practice, the low velocity and lack of armor keep it in check.
It’s easy to destroy and a massive CAS magnet. Being an open-chassis vehicle at this BR is basically a death sentence after first 2-3 minutes of the battle. Plus, since it has no turret you have to expose your entire hull just to get a shot, while other tanks can just peek a corner.
Comparing it to other TDs like the JgPz IV (which can actually take a hit), the 0.3 BR difference is kind of a joke. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not a weak vehicle, but moving it to 4.0 is unjustified and would just break a perfectly good lineup. Is fun not allowed?
Forgive me because I’ve not played either of these jets yet (stuck grinding the F-4E), but if you’re moving the F-4S down shouldn’t the F-4J also move down, aren’t they essentially the same vehicle?
And also pls the FRG.2
As long as this doesn’t happen for grb, fine. In grb 4.7 might as well be 5.0 because Germany doesn’t have a 4.7 lineup