yeah I was gonna say… But you get my point?
Edit: I find it crazy the Ayit is at 10.0 while this is at 9.7
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I do get your point, which is why I was saying the Su-25 shouldn’t be so low
The A-4E is sitting pretty high compared to other CAS, but that’s a result of compression
The Su-25 has no FnF, so Gaijin thinks it’s OK
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why are people still yapping in this thread bro lol, they’re not gonna do anything to fix brs
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Cant call it mid in ground tbh. There is probably nothing worse than a10c at 11.7. Av8 na, f111f and maybe even f14b are all better than a10c. Even su39 despite moving to 11.7 is better.
In sim yes its decent no doubt.
They can fit. The issue is in modelling because agm65s hit as hard as romanian rpg copies in that one film about bradley. And battle rating paired with horrid map design. So you are playing vs sm sv on dm_flatpolandgrass without any chance to surprise attack or win.
It should. But also it would be nice if devs fixed desyncs, tanks driving into underworld and weather. Especially weather. Low cover silent hill paired with lack of any optics and near useless rwr is recipe for disaster. Same type of garbage as night battles but devs dont want to give players ability to turn it off.
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I’m not saying they can’t, I’m just saying that with how the game currently works, the A-10s just can’t do the job that they were designed to do.
A lot of maps should be perfect for the A-10 and the Su-25 kinda proves that, but the A-10 is just worse in pretty much all aspects, except for having access to Mavericks.
The high A-10C doesn’t have anything that could fix the A-10As problems, so it just flat out sucks and the only thing that keeps its BR so high are the glide bombs.
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And in recent major su25t and su39 got neat buff - arms and esm screen with instant refresh rate. While a10c was left with nothing. So gap between them just gets bigger.
9m as well. But devs dont understand that grb isnt arb with tons of enemy planes and a10c speed wont let you quickly pop up, dump gbu39 and evade enemy sam. Maybe they have to be forced to play thousands of ground battles in a10c.
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genuinely considering buying the Su-39 because it also gets more ARMs
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Fake tank
yay the only one I think I’ll ever get unless I buy Ho-Ri Prototype
its a bit of a frankensteins tank ill give you that. its a sherman 2 turret on a sherman 4 hull which is incorrectly missing the hull machine gun plug (some were plugged up if they didnt want a hull MG gunner)
a small model correction and its fine tbh
Su-39 is also one of the best options for red in nuke thunder in the lower brackets because it can bring 16x Vikhr (which benefits from the small munition buff) + 2 Kh-25MPU/Kh-31P + 2 guided munitions (Kh-29TE or Kh-25ML) for maximum ticket destruction.
from my experience in Shermans across the board, as well as the long gunner Pz.4s, they all around feel the same, as when i started i main’d the US there was no change of playstyle, and even now, i’ve played, and fully modified, every Sherman in WT (excluding the Russian M4A2 76, German M4A2 75, Chinese premium M4A4, i have played the calliope but i don’t own it hell if i remember correctly, in one of if not the first match got 12 kills with the Pz.4 although that was a while ago, also, you specifically pointed out the Pz.4J, something i purposefully excluded in my comment due to lack of powered turret traverse, however it has a much larger games played pool, that would be closer to the M10, of which development started as an idea to put the 3 inch anti aircraft navel gun into a Sherman
I’m glad I didn’t bother leaving a comment on the original BR change page, especially now that every modes players has finally been subjected to the devs skipping over all feedback (typical Tuesday for NF players).
(NF wise:)
(RB wise):
I’m generally surprised & shocked that the devs last minute decided to take out every jet bomber / fighter equipped with high capacity bombs, further crippling any antishipping abilities of most nations further for above 6.3 BR.
Such a change should’ve been put forwards earlier so a vote could be made over just changing all of it, now it’s only the Americans, Soviets, Germany & Britain that can reliable bring high capacity bombs into battle, mostly with these:
• B-29
• B-52H
• A2D
• Washington
• Lancaster
• Mosquito
• Ju 288
• Ju 188
• Me 264
• Be-6
• Tu-95M
•Tu-4
All of which are fast or carry multiple HC bombs or a large bomb load.
Meanwhile the lost of the two Canberra B, the two US Canberra B, the three IL-28’s, Yak-28 & the Tu-14T. All of which is the devs taking the piss… especially the Tu-14T which only just got a parachute torpedo to bring along with its torpedo it already had (the only torpedo bomber jet & we can’t use it).
Sure most carried HC bombs especially the Canberra B Mk. 2 with two 4000lb HC Blockbuster bombs, yet most only had one bomb or four to six 1000lb bombs (eight for the B-57B), their speed is equally to what can still be brought into the mode, the B-52H still carries more bombs of similar type to the B-57B at the same speeds basically.
Now comes their counters, ohh look a +50000 tonne ship bristling with AA guns, those guns ain’t there for show or for just letting AI’s use them (especially after range nerfs), use them to swathe out aircraft no matter their speeds. Or bring up any DDAA or CLAA to defend others with, especially if they’re radar guided & the enemy is coming straight for you & finally SAM armed ships, four nations have 10.0/11.0 GF equivalent missiles down at 4.0-5.3 BR, of whuch rarely fight jets but are enough to down those in game.
If a player is complaining about jet bombers, they’re usually the ones not moving & stationary, have the awareness skills of a pigeon & don’t bother going evasive with a quick turn or just don’t bother to use AA they’ve got.
(AB wise):
If they’re such a problem, then increase reload times or remove aerial reloads from NF all together from the mode (since the devs love ruining AB the most, this should be right up their alley), dodging should logically be far easier in that mode due to the speed boost vessels get.
(Guided munitions):
Ohh boy, when I heard the Yak-130 was in NF, I kinda hoped it mean other nations might get their aircraft BR’s reduced for the mode, as hell like I said already WWII aircraft are basically subjected to 10.0/11.0 equivalent GF SAM batteries, surely if those are brought up in BR to match these GBU armed aircraft, it would be fine, yet no they’ve increase that things BR as well. Most drop ranges are well within AI AA range, most missiles outrange the KAB-500Kr by ten kilometres & the bombs themselves are just 500kg bombs which already damage ships at most or sink them depending on crew health.
(Let alone just recently the devs have been tinkering with AI controlled CIWS, surely that’ll aid fighting such munitions. Heh just saw a Project 1331M corvette down four RIM-24A from a Charles F. Adams class back to back).
Meanwhile the community has no problems with WWII guided munitions, sure you still gotta control them but they’re effective at all BR’s & one of them outranges all WWII era AA by ten fold as seen by the Ki-148 which is devastating at BR 3.3 NF especially in AB since you get reloads.
So that’s fun, the TT E50 type Frigate Le Brestois F762 went down in BR, nice finally at the same BR as its sistership & not chance of fighting 5.3 ships anymore… Yet… the fire directors are still bugged with thr ones meant for the 57 mm used now for the 100 mm & the whole reason the m/50 rocket assisted depth charge launcher was landed was for the fire director for the 100 mm, yet unfortunately that bug report goes nowhere thanks to the illiterate nation of one mod screwing up Grantaire’s bug report… PS, the same fire directors are on Jean Bart & an only control the 152 mm cannons not the 57 mm somehow even through the 152 mm are controlled by heavier mast fiee directors & also the 100 mm HA HAA guns have no fire directors yet somehow get solutions fir their HE-DF Shells…
Also why did the Marne class Sloops go back down in BR after they were increased to 3.3 some months ago??? Meanwhile you left the god awful terrible & useless Élan class Sloop at BR 3.3 instead, that thing could be BR 2.3 & still be 100% horrible…
(GF wise):
Hmm so PGZ09 goes to 9.3, huh, no biggy at all tbh yet I’ve seen people complaining about that yet the thing is perfectly suited for AA duties well above its own BR, especially for downing incoming munitions.
Yet this now runs the question, why use the PGZ04A? been using it finally & it’s quite terrible, I’m surprised the devs didn’t change the placement around finally & reduced the latter SPAAG down to 9.0, afterall the former is a 2009 system while the latter is a improved 1995 system from 2004 & those missiles are piss, sure it can secure some nasty kills but a flare says screw you & they can’t even hit a micro drone even after you get tone on it.
What logic was the M41D going up??? I actually want an answer to this.
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They could give the f14B the aim54c+ since it was cleared to use them
There are actually a few good choices. I just hope they don’t mess up this opportunity.
Tranche 1 eurofighter would be an interesting one while not losing something too special to the wallet warrior line.
Id rather the premium hornets be the highest premiums as top tier is already really bad without a flood of premium noobs
You know, instead of adding completely new premiums, Gaijin could rework some of the existing F/A-18s so they’re all Fox-3-capable aircraft. They’ve done this with premium vehicles in the past, but they do love their money, so I’m not sure how willing they’d be to do it here.
I do mention this at the bottom of the post, but some weird dude got really mad at me and started harassing me over it before. Just be careful that the same thing doesn’t happen to you when discussing it.
IDK where else to ask, but why dont us World wide players get atleast the decals and skins? cos i wanna have a golden yamato that everyone can see, and also fill out my japanese decal list even more…
this is a sad month for japanese mains
Not just a month
2025:
2026-2025 was terrble for JPN.
Type 90 BR change was deserved tho.
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well if they didnt add turret baskets bull crap to japan then the BR chance would have made sense, then they added that and made it almost impossible to play
Will change nothing because it’s the exact same as the AIM-54C in-game