Good, that’s it. Where’s your real account dude? You said you also play French Premium, have you ever tried aircraft other than that abuser F-14A IRIAF?
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the world may never know
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When I try to play my Tornado as bomber in ARB, all …really all bases always getting bombed by much, much faster fighters. A Mig-21 with fire bombs easily burns down 2 bases. Same like a Tornado with full bomb loadout of MK1000’s. I’m not even talking about F-16 etc. There is no balance. There is no niche for fighter bombers. You can’t compete in pvp, cause you’re flying a bus with just two missiles. You can’t bomb bases, cause fighters with speed setups (low fuel settings etc) bomb everything before you even close in 10km.
Changes need to be made. I’m tired of ending every match without any income.
Guys stop being irrelevant. Is it an abuse to use a plane that’s in the game? The BR it came it is GJ’s problem. Decompression needed is GJ’s propblem.
Start asking the right things…
Stop that stupidity with accusations against players when the company that makes the game refuses to fix it. It was low , it went up. Now it’s one step but it’s too high because they didn’t take any measures before upranking it , simplest one and valid- it could carry 6xARH and all aspect IRs.
We are here accusing eachother … while the game overall needs decompression.
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We at gaijin hear you and understand-that is why we will be moving the j7d to 10.3 next br change with absolutely no explanation or justification
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It’s not even their fault at this point.
The players ask and push wrong things. Where are the decompression topics and suggestions?
No , we must write 30 posts about the plane we currently play and fail at because the opponent plays a better plane and he shouldn’t.
I made a poll on general.
Do you want decompression or not? Simple.
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Real life ?
If were talking about real life, F15 should be clapping cheeks of mig21s all day.
Warthunder is not realistic game nor simulation game.
You’re using 90s tanks against t90m tanks which made in 2018 and pantsirs shooting 80s-90s jets.
Even gaijin didn’t add every aircraft but if you’re adding f14 with arh missiles, it should be at the proper tier which is minimum of 13.0 at the moment.
good idea
Alright, I’m trying to be real here. The F-14A IRIAF going up to 13.0 IMHO is completely justified judging from its performance to kill alone, because we also had the sad MiG-29G and also JA-37DI that also sits at 13.0.
Yes we need a decompression, but a decompression would leave another problem because every BR have its own overpowered aircraft and this would leave a very looooooooooong way to discuss for every BR having a decompression, for me again IMHO this is why there are not always a decompression, although I must appreciated Gaijin that since 2022, aircraft decompression is moving so fast that I remember back in the day F-4E only have 0.3 difference BR with F-14A (IMAGINE THAT S***!) while also all aircraft still have blind RWR.
The first factor is, F-14A IRIAF alone have an “Almost” gurantee kill 6 missile with 4 Fakour-90 and 2 R-27R (yes, R-27R still potent if we compare its performance at least to Super 530D which is just glorified Skyflash SuperTEMP) and extra 2 subpar IR Missile which is a bonus if you could get a kill with this. While MiG-29G do have R-73, but it’s already being powercrept by the new Fox 3 Meta, R-73 is great, but due to its being thrust vectoring and Live Server always reduced thrust vectoring missile capabilities (look at MICA in test drive and live server) it’s essentially a slower AIM-9L that can turn with IRCCM same as Magic 2 (which ironically, Magic 2 in game IRCCM was copy pasted from R-73). With R-27ER, it only leaves with 2 “Almost” gurantee kill because of its fast travel speed, most enemy wouldn’t have time to properly dodged this missile. JA37DI, I don’t really have to talk much about this, but its gurantee kill also only have 2 missile, since AIM-9L is also borderline useless because most people would keybind their chaff and flare button at the same key.
That is the first factor, the second factor is the quantity of F-14A IRIAF Player which as of today still pretty much filling up the lobby mirrored due to abundance of US Player. 4 aircraft of F-14A IRIAF is more decisively changes the tide of battle than let’s just say, 6 to 8, MiG-29G due to most of these F-14A IRIAF Player would do a volley firing their Fakour-90, I do also hate people who can’t notch this, but AS FAR AS I PLAY, the only aircraft that still dictates the outcome of the match is F-14A, yes even the old one back in the day. A team could easily win only with 2 F-14A IRIAF that can score up to 3 kill per player, because most of the kill that goes for the IRIAF (as of before the changes) are the aircraft that also tend to counter these aircraft like Mirage 2000, F-16, Su-27, or MiG-29. Killing these counters would severly affect enemy team performance due to their counter aircraft now already dead thanks to Fakour Volley. Hell, even back in the IRCCM Meta, F-14 still dictates the battlefield by forcing the R-27ER spammer to go down whenever their RWR starts pinging. AFAIK, none of any aircraft in War Thunder have this power to dictate the fate of the match, even MiG-23MLD during its hayday (although from that time I haven’t played War Thunder yet) because at least in the MLD Meta, you still need a skill to properly score a kill, while F-14 (especially the IRIAF) you can brainlessly spam those missile and wait for dumb player that eats those missile.
The third factor is the FM, in a late match scenario with both players let’s just say all have run out of missile (I’m not gonna contempt if you say the missile factor, but that’s too much variable for the argument), F-14A still can beat any aircraft it faces as long it’s not Delta Canards Aircraft. F-14A still the aircraft that can pull so many AoA that only Delta Canards Aircraft can beat (IMHO), so in a late game scenario F-14A still can survive compared to MiG-29 and JA37 that have very subpar dogfight performance. Yes, the F-14A don’t have IFF, but again compared to MiG-29 and JA-37, F-14A still have actual direction, so if you really pay attention, it’s still much-much better than those 2 RWR.
The fourth factor is somehow related to second factor, which is the Battle Rating trend. With F-14A IRIAF still popular as of today despite being nerfed, the BR Trend would also change as the F-14A IRIAF going up to 13.0. Remember that while the F-14A IRIAF going up to 13.0, the powercreep aircraft like Mirage 2000C-S5 (which is I enjoyly abuse) so I wouldn’t be surprised this aircraft would eventually go up to 12.7 and also everything good except the missile count, F-16A and F-20 also going down to 12.3 which would make this aircraft feel more playable and again changes the BR trend. With US always getting mirrored, and from my experience, the 13.0-14.0 matchmaker are now more popular to aircraft like Delta Canard Aircraft that suits better for the meta, the only US Aircraft that stands against current meta is F-15E so there will be more of F-15E Player than F-15C/F-16C that sits at 13.7. That means for me at least, F-14A IRIAF have a both full downtier or full uptier because both Battle Rating which F-14A IRIAF sits in between is now benefitted. I have played the 12.3 F-16, most of my uptiers only go up to 13.0 which again I will face F-14A IRIAF again. Because in my J-11 playthrough at current BR Trends, well it’s always either full downtier or full uptier, at least much better than before that will always have constant full uptier. Again, with this BR Trends, in a full downtier, F-14A IRIAF would easily sweep the map with its fast Fakour-90.
With being said of those four factors, this would eventually either kill the F-14A IRIAF statistics, or business as usual because there’s still dumb player that can’t notch properly even in 14.0-13.0 matchmaker. If the F-14A IRIAF statistics really conclude this aircraft has been killed, which only God and Gaijin knows its actual statistics, there will be a time of reviewing back the BR of F-14A IRIAF and also other F-14, to gets remedy for another BR Changes in the future.
Sorry for all the people who read this wall of text lmao.
Extra: The reason why I bring up the personal thing, because he himself bringing up the argument, that is his burner account, and he (((Actually))) also main other countries. Which is just sound like BS because he didn’t even bring up his second account to this debate, and his reasoning for not using second account is so people don’t stalk his account, I smell dishonesty in accountability here. Again, I don’t mind someone’s K/D or winrate, I just want to know that if someone talks about something he absolutely know, not being a smart ass in other aircraft like saying Magic 2 missile being “Buffed” just because he (((have played))) Premium Mirage F1 (which other than this claim, I haven’t found out do he really have a second account or not). He’s defending F-14A IRIAF as F-14A IRIAF is THE ONLY AIRCRAFT he ever played.
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Leopard 2K = 10.0
PT-16/T14 → Leopard 2K without smokes, laser rangefinder and 20 mm gun, but with better reload = 10.7
Typical Gaijin moment
What a nonsense
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This one goes 2 ways. Personally i’d prefer a variable BR set up, that you play in the BR the armament you have currently equipped is fit for. For example. Someone grinded the event , took F-14A IRIAF. He take Fakour, he plays 13.0 . He takes AIM-54A in his loadout, it’s 12.7. AIM-7E2/Sedjil?R27R without ARH in the loadout? 12.3. Only AIM-9P that’s a 12.0. As a failsafe, even if you arm one of these missiles the Br changes accordingly. But you always have the option…not to.
This way you can help even stock grind and it actually pictures a plane’s power in the variety of set-ups it can have in a load out.
Make sanse 4 sec autolaoder reload vs 7+sec manual reload
Absolutely not
From your perspective, a10 has to be at lower tier if player decides to spawn it without the mavericks. I know you’re talking about arb but variable br setup is not optimal, gaijin just have to make a tier which includes av8 with aim 120, f14 with fakour90 and mig29s, nothing less or more, maybe you could add other nations jets like chinese ones but i don’t know most jets so its just an example, i think its better than facing eurofighters, rafale c or f15e.
Even if.
My point is that we should focus in decompression instead what someone plays. We have to help eachother in this , because no one else will.
K/D is irrelevant i think. It can be messed with bot airkills (or that’s what i remember- correct m eif i’m wrong).
I’ve played many games against F-14 IRIAF and enough game with it.
It’s not about getting it up or down in BR , or what X player says and supports. Anyone has his opinion.
It’s about this plane along with many others , currently, don’t really have a spot. We’re talking 0,3 differences here and it goes from very good (OP it wasn’t) to barely playable (other than release F90s/AIM-54s and turn back its capacity is limited).
It does also correct me if im wrong but doesnt it have armor?
Like smt in the turret cheaks cus leo 2k is peper
They are more or less the same paper.
Well if leo 2a4 have 6 sec reload and it on 10.7 then it makes sanse for it to be too
In reality, the Thai F-16 OCU likely doesn’t have HMD, or am I mistaken?
Of course, decompression should also be the better option, but for this current state I don’t think Gaijin would push for more decompression at least IMHO there would be another decompression when F-18 and Su-30SM has arrived.
I know, you should read again my reply, I don’t talk about his K/D, I talk about his accountability as a player, using a burner account is such a cowards way to avoid accountability in the argument.
The point of BR Changes is also to changes the trend of its BR so other (NOT ALL) player can also have a breath of air for being good in game, if we always opt for decompression, there’s no competition in game, and the game being too easy, and it will flatout the stats favourabily for the skillful player than everybody can gets it.
The F-14A IRIAF isn’t barely playable if it still can score 2 kill especially if more than 2, and also doing a volley firing something that only EFT horde can do in 14.0. You don’t talk about how it performs in a full downtier especially when there will be almost 3-4 F-14A IRIAF. Current BR Changes will just make F-14A IRIAF have consistent performance due to noob player will leaving this aircraft and only the capable player that still want to play this aircraft.
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