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yeah right, you keep changing the goalposts big man.

the loepard 2PL is better still than leclercs, challanger 2s, the type ten may have the reload but its paper and massive so id still take the 2pl

it also doesnt change the fact, im comparing the leopard 2PL to 12.0! not 11.7s now since you asked me to in the last comment and still nto good enough.

it doesnt need to be able to shoot through the UFP of a t80, or am abrams, they have weakspots. its highly mobile. skill issue after checking your damn stat card man, youve got literally germany at top tier, that is it, youve not used any other top tier at all. so yeah cope.

Did you just say that a 536mm pen round is “phenomenal” on a BR where its counterparts pen 610, 615, 623, 629 and 652mm…?

Specially when most of those tanks also have significantly stronger and better armor profiles…?

Hell, even Russian mains complain about 580mm on significantly stronger and better armored tanks, and British, French and Chinese players complain about 564, 575 and 577mm, respectively. How can you say that 536 is “phenomenal” when its literally the lowest pen shell in Top Tier…

You do not have the 2A7/PSO/6/ or 5. So you simply do not understand what I am saying.

Not going to lie, this is probably the WORST lineup to bring to 11.7/12.0

This is where you went wrong. You simply don’t understand.

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also missing an spaa

it absolutely is a phenomenal round mate the DM43 has 310 pen at 60 degrees. which is the important modified to look at heck at 2km it has angle pen of 293, combined with the platform its on, the mobility makes up for it for positioning, compare it to say the challanger 2 which round is literally marginally better and one of the worst at top tier?

why doesnt it have l28? as i said, teh leopard 2PL didnt fire it for a start, and does not need it at all.

use the lazur as cap instead of an SPAA

ive played for nearly 6 years mate, i certainly do understand, the 2PL is fine where it is and with what it has.

you cant see the other nations how they perform at all, yet think the 2PL needs a buff.

Im not sure how someone could argue AGAINST something, without actually having played them…?
Main Final Point, if you can comprehend this,(pigeon)

There is NO, 0, Zero, NADA, reason to bring the Leo2PL into your 12.0 lineup.
There is no 11.7 and its HIGHLY detrimental to bring 1BR under vehicles into this range.
The other tanks that one can take at this BR are simply so much better than the PL.
It should’ve gotten the new round, MAYBE it could make it useable over the other options, but I guess we won’t know now.

its detrimental if you cant use the damn thing man. not if you know how to play the game and use the vehicles, i take the khalid into my now 12.0 british lineup and all i need ot grind for britain is the challanger 3TD.

so yeah i do take what i want into my lineups.

The round Leopard 2PL certainly didn’t ever use on the first place is DM43.

DM53 is closer to the DM63 it actually uses.

Whatever…

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Congrats. You’re muted for sub 70 IQ.
Can’t handle this discussion.

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what a mature response.

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rate this lineup
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i like it man looks pretty good

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American Lineups! This would be mine;

AH-64D is the newest addition, but, being honest, I deeply regret it, xD. Hellfires take 9 business days to reach their target, don’t always deal any significant damage anyway, and the stock grind is a nightmare.

And I got to replace AIM with HC soon, since Gaijin decided to spit in AIM’s face by giving HC a better shell but not AIM’s historical one, so now HC is just better at the same BR.

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cant find a source for DM53 or 63 for the 2pl, can you hook me up with one? and the round is good, it creates good spall, has good pen, good platform, with good optics, and good thermals.

is it 600 pen lol pen? no, does it need to be? no

Screenshot 2024-10-11 001110

what do you make of this british lineup? full MBT haven xD

Here you go!

Military Technology 02/2017 (above “future tanks” section)

Leopard 2PL’s operating rounds are DM63A1 and DM11; the ability to fire these rounds was one of the main points in Poland’s upgrade program for their Leopard 2A4s into PLs.

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the DM11 i know cause they wanted some form of timed charge for it. the 63 i could not find a rouce for the life of me.

heres what i run for fun with the US rn man. i am shockingly bad with the paten

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