I think your list is a bit flawed, I think a lot of those tanks overlap and share the same spot. Like the leopard and 2 122Bs share the top spot.
CAS might not mean anything to pure ground mains but ground mode still remains a combined arms mode.
Exactly. It’s the War Thunder equivalent of telling someone missing an arm that they can’t be mad about it because someone else is missing an arm and a leg.
if they are using reload as a hard balancing factor the buff makes zero sense and I disagree with it I agree, I just want accurate armor modeling, something that BR’s are used to balance
???
As I said, I can just disagree with that.
Leopard 2A7V, Strv 122B+, Strv 122B PLSS, Strv 122A… those were straight up better (now, not by such a big degree); T-80BVM, Type 10, TKX, Challenger 3 TD and T-90M, better in at least one or more ways even if you may consider them sidegrades due to certain disadvantages they may have leaving aside their advantages…
Seriously, being better than Ariete, Leclerc and Merkava isn’t what I would consider enough to call it “one of the best MBTs in the game”.
Now, with improved reload, at least gets, indeed, one strength. But before this, it was straight out merely average.
as a US-GERMAN main I should say the Leopard 2 its leagues above the abrams, the abrams is so easy to 1 shot that is ridiculous
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nuclear take
in what way is the T90M better? way worse mobility and way worse firepower package.
and chally 3 TD isnt better for the literal same issues.
with the SEP reload buff you are literally in between the type 10 and 2a6, better armor and way better gunhandling than the type 10, and notably better firepower than a 2a6.
you are just the best overall tank in the game for this meta
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Your example is not logical, nor is it related to the present situation. Do you not understand the concept of balance? You can claim you support realistic improvements for all tanks, yet you do not care at all about balance, which is the single most important thing in this discussion. The opinion you express seems related to the topic, but is in truth a thinly veiled distraction from balancing.
As a US, GER, UK, SWE, RU, ISR, JAP and FR player, I agree.
The Abrams tanks are among the easiest Rank VIII tanks to one-hit kill, both when playing them and against them.
I have got several thousand matches across the Top Tier MBTs of EIGHT nations and across many years… so I got a fair bit of experience, both playing the Abrams and playing against the Abrams.
So… yeah, it gets a bit on my nerves when people talk to me about the Abrams’ supposed “extreme survivability”.
You know what? The Abrams USED to have extreme survivability, yes. In 2018. But now it’s almost 2024, not 2018…
Balance is precisely what I care about the most, which is why I support and advocate for many improvements and fixes across each and every single nation ingame that needs them.
I want every nations’ tanks to be fair and balanced counterparts against each other; and that includes not having the Abrams tanks nerfed into the ground to keep them subpar.
except this change has just removed the balance of toptier again?
the US has undeniably the best CAS in the game, and with the abrams buff they have the best mbts as well
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I give up.
fair bit of experience
abrams tanks nerfed into the ground
no wonder we get buffs like that.
I haven’t played the Abrams in several months, mostly because I couldn’t find a single reason to, so… good try at doing a funni.
Only now I am starting to give them another try, after this reload buff. I want to see if they are worth anything now.
So far, I played one match; and I can say that at least now they are more fun.
Before, I could only think: “why am I wasting time with the Abrams when I could be playing a Strv/Leopard and it would just be better in every way?” Now, at least, with the extra rate of fire, I feel like there is a point to play the Abrams over those tanks.
With your idea of whats good and what isn’t you probably shouldn’t bother
you have yet to explain to me how it isnt man
If you want to know what a tank actually worthy of being considered to be the best ingame looks like, take a look at Leopard 2A7V.
Yeah no, not at this state. I would be the best if they actually didn’t gimp the shit out of it. Currently it’s worse than the swedish leos, that are older…
I have the SEP and both old 122’s spaded and free-aced. idk brudi. the 2A7V is just worse than the 122 due to the lower topspeed and the fact it is impossible to increase the mobility to 2A4 equivalent in this godawful engine anyway.
You have repeatedly defended the reload improvement to the Abrams tanks, which come while historical improvements for other tanks have not. This undoubtedly creates a great upset in game balance.
The Abrams is already one of the strongest tanks at top tier. Why have historical fixes to much weaker top MBTs not been applied, while the strongest become ever more powerful?
That you say that the Abrams is among the easiest tanks to one-hit-kill shows a lot about the amount of bias you have in your mind. The Abrams’ survivability is among the best in top tier. Compare it to Leclerc, Ariete, ZTZ99A, Challenger, even to Russian tanks.
You cannot claim to care about balance when you are so heavily biased that your claims are entirely inconsistent with reality, in such a predictable and one-sided manner.
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