Unbalancing the Skies: The Controversy Surrounding Pantsir S1 in War Thunder

Flying low can reduce your chances of being shot down dramatically, I have the Pantsir and fly against it all the time, flying up high is just guaranteeing your aircraft will be shot down, especially if the person using the Pantsir isn’t using the automatic lead mode. (Which I highly advise anyone do if they have troubles using the Pantsir.)

Also, stop flying in a straight line.

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“It doesn’t work to fly lower after the update; I’m tired of dying 2 meters above the ground. Soon, I’ll have to go underground so that the Pantsir doesn’t kill me. I have a Pantsir and can kill everyone on the other team, and I’m terrible at playing AA. I can kill 7 players while watching videos on TikTok. The game is unbalanced, and I’ve realized it’s useless to complain in these forums because nothing ever changes.”

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It works fine for me, your play style must be very static, may need to work on your approaches.

Also out of your 46 battles in the Pantsir-S1 you have 33 deaths and 35 kills.

"Exactly, as I said, I’m not the best AA player and yet I killed 35. Thank you for wasting your time looking at my stats to try to defend your narrative. hahaha

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I didn’t mean for it to come off negatively, however I believe my point still stands.

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first of all, chill down a bit he is trying to give you tips on how to avoid it, yeah he is not denying its still pretty op he is just trying to teach you how to avoid it

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yea but that doesnt mean its fair + russia has best cas

and how will i kill tanks while flying low?

Of course not, stop crying.
Of course the others should get better AAA but it is not unbalanced at all, I would say it is barely enough, you have FIGHTERS like the Typhoon, F-15E, Rafale that can carry a load equal to the Su-34 or Su-25SM3 that they complain so much about, being FIGHTERS and still retaining a FULL Air to Air missile capacity, being FIGHTERS not Attackers, and unlike their nightmares that are the Russian planes practically all FIGHTERS have THERMAL targeting PODS with better angles than any other Russian Attacker, even being light FIGHTERS like the J-39 or the F-16 they still have a very similar load (6 MAV and 2 bombs) even with 2 A2A missiles, since they are FIGHTERS they surpass their Russian nightmare in flight model, countermeasures, POD and missiles, being only equal in the amount of A2G armament, being the only advantage of the ATTAKERS, not fighters like the Su-27SM ATTAKERS the Kh-38 missile which is only on 2 aircraft, 2 ATTAKERS which cannot defend against AAA like an F-16 would.
If the Su-27SM could carry a thermal POD that does not replace any pylon, could carry both radar missiles and go, more than 150 countermeasures, carry at least 6 KH-38, improve its FM and fix the R-77s maybe I would think about removing the Pantsir.
But since the others dominate the CAS pantsir may be there to keep it at bay.

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Missiles, bombs, cannon

The dmg model for AGM 65 in the game is never fixed. If you’ve ever used it you know how inefficient it is against ground vehicles. It is very common to have 6 hits but only 2 -3 kills. They are also very slow and can be easily intercepted by AA. On the other hand Rus has kh38 and kh29, both are modeled as HE instead of HEAT. If you have ever used them you will immediately notice even a near hit gets you a kill. The only equivalent variant in the game is French AASM though it’s also an inferior version. Also, Kh38 reaches mach 2, making it extremely hard for the already underperforming NATO AA to intercept.

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Simple solution: Remove Pantsir and all rank 8 planes.

Nope, Russia doesnt have best cas.
Soviet CAS is on 4th or 5th place.
Every F16C, Gripen, EF, or Rafael eats su34 alive, only advantage is kh38, and still nato CAS can deal against ground and air tagets.
Nothing is changed actually, just a team who got better pilots / get’s jets in air first usually wins.
Usually soviets win only when enemy air fails completely.

the problem is you can’t fly above pantsir do you understand that?

No issues least on f16C against pantsir…
Maybe you should go and take a look on youtube or tiktok videos how to counter pantsir on top jets…

I watched 2 videos from 2 famous warthunder youtubers both had the same thing, Pantsir didn’t work on them, they flew straight to the battlefield but the pantsirs didn’t do anything, no shoot, no lock, just sat there and died. Meanwhile my F16C shot 4 mavericks at a pantsir and all of them were intercepted. Soooo, pantsir is the problem because it’s very hard to kill.

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nope