@J-16D_PLA I do not want to repeat myself for the second time, but idk if you have seen what I wrote before when there was a topic whether USSR is really USSR in the game
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I have not and probably don’t bother to check it out
They can always add it now.
I think it would enrage Americans more
The question I make afterwards does not encompass UA only, but all ex-Soviet states in general. I doubt we are getting Ukraine of all ex-Soviet states if the game represents only one ex-Soviet vehicle for the past… 11 years?
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To be fair, it is an extremely important political issue.
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If any more ex-soviet state is going to be added to USSR it is going be Ukraine tho. What else can gaijin add that would provide similar value?
Literally Iran.
It would bring much needed variety to the USSR tree.
Nah it’s going to die down in like a decade or so
Yea Iranian tanks kind of suck…
I mean, it is not about value. At least not for the USSR TT, which still has a crap ton of objects and other production vehicles (tanks, planes, ships) that can make up for 3 sub-trees. It is about general representation. The fact that the only ex-Soviet state you can quite easily access is Russia (literallly top tier of all forces) makes people think of Soviet TT as Russian, and because devs haven’t changed attitude to this subject for last 11 years, I don’t think they will treat Ukraine as sub-tree for Soviets
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If not in the USSR where else would they add Ukrainian vehicles? They’d better not add Ukraine to something like the USA. And if no ex-soviet states are represented in the USSR then maybe gaijin should rename the USSR tree and change the flag of it to Russia. And with the T84 being in the Japan tree I think that the place where it came from, which should be the USSR in game, should at least have a version of it. Just like how China would have the VT4 if Japan gets it
Options of UA becoming sub-tree even for others like CZ-SK or PL are still on the table. I am not excluding Soviet TT getting it, but, as I said in my “yapping” comment, it
a) depends on what devs think of UA in the game in general (≠ what players think, because devs are in power for things primarily)
b) depends on how will they implement it (bits here and there like Canada/Australia (terrible option) or with UI rework to accomodate the ammount of vehicles)
I don’t see any signs for the latter, and former is much more probable because we do not know yet what next independent tt might come next year (if it is PL or CZ-SK, odds for them to get UA will grow exponantionaly)
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Why not?
The T-84 came from ukraine, I’ll admit the the T-80 was russian, but the T-80 itself used a ukrainian tank, the T-64, as the basis of its design. Either way your point is moot since the soviet union had already collapsed by the time the T-84 made it into service, & russia does not use the T-84, & this post is LITERALLY about an Independent ukraine ground forces tree.
Independent means that neither the USSR nor russia are a factor here.
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Because Ukraine isn’t American and the USA don’t need T90M equivalents running around.
And the poll you showed at the end shows that 34% of people DON’T agree. Which is a pretty big percentage. And not everybody voted so I’d say about 40% of people would oppose it. Which is a pretty big number and something that gaijin won’t take the risk for.
And people on Russian forums would have even more people opposed to this
So? the poll showed that 66% of people DO agree, and last I checked, 66% is BIGGER than 34%, it is in fact bigger by 32 percentage points. This means twice as many people think ukraine should be an independent tree than should not.
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So you’d think gaijin would lose 34% of it’s playerbase?
There are people unironically wanting captured T-90A/M for the US.
Short history moment: there was above 70% (73 I believe), but when LATAM tt proposal arrived, there were people pointing out that a tt requiring an entire continent gives more unique options by not so larger margin than UA by itself, so some people from LATAM suggestion (primarily Latin American players) arrived to this suggestion with downvotes
Ukraine as a tech tree alone is not suited for this game as WW2 and cold war vehicles are entirely missing. And furthermore we already have a tree that could represent it, which is called the USSR
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That’s like a couple of US mains. Russians also want T14 which is probably not happening soon