Oh right, the T-90M… can hit targets at ranges we dont have in game… without a spotter drone… wow, sick, so much better than anything the “T-84” has in game…
Do they both have good thermal sights? Yes?!
Comparable then!
Both arent “Gen 1” in game? Great! Equal!
FCS is dumbed down in Warthunder, nothing you point out matters.
You really, really, want to die on this hill of the T-90M having better FCS.
Yes, in real life, it does.
But this is Warthunder. The improvements it has dont matter. The game isnt played in such a way where they can be utilised, let alone are
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve love the idea and I’m all for it. The issue imo is not just copy paste but more than one of the same vehicles with similar modifications
Just copying from the old forum but updated with recent Danish M109A3DK transfer (made the post there in May’23, updated the images here as per new forum rules) :
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Different M109 variants currently in service with Ukraine:
-1, can’t see this ending well. We have more than enough copy paste and beyond a few modifications, I don’t think Ukraine has made any of their own vehicles. There’d be no point to a Ukrainian tech tree, and there’s no space for a sub tree. I also can’t see adding modern Ukraine to the Russian TT going well, geopolitically speaking
casually ignores all the unique Ukrainian vehicles in the TT and thread
Mate while having copy paste is a legit issue however most of the vehicles in the suggested tech tree and the thread are far from copy paste. Most are not like Israeli tanks where the only difference is just an extra machine gun. most the tanks in the suggested Ukrainian TT have either been so heavily modified they are a unique vehicle or are a completely unique vehicle all together that has nothing to do do with Russia or the USSR.
Claiming copy paste doesn’t mean a vehicle is copy paste. Also copy paste is an unavoidable outcome there will always be some degree of copy paste. You may not like it you may not want it but there’s going to be copy paste regardless.
And as for a Ukrainian TT it’s going to have to come eventually but the best and only way it should come is either as an independent TT or as a combined TT with Poland. It’s too big to be a sub-TT and by no means should Ukraine be put in the Russian TT that will be political suicide. But if Ukraine was combined with Poland we could eliminate the less unique vehicles and keep only the unique and heavily modified Ukrainian vehicles.
Interesting observation related to vehicle decals and roundels: in latest game update one specific regional decal and related regional event was hidden by default for the players who use Ukrainian game localization in War Thunder.
This gives me hope that we will finally see Ukrainian decals and roundels in the game in near future, since they can be hidden for other region just as easily.
The emblem of the Ukrainian Armed Forces has been long overdue for inclusion in the game
(illustrative photo: Т-84-120 with UAF emblem on a parade in Kyiv in 2018)
In War Thunder, there are several dozen emblems (not flags) of countries that do not have represented vehicles in the game: Ireland, Portugal, Philippines, Peru, Lithuania, Croatia, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, and many others.
