-1, Dont need another copy paste vehicles.
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At the same time you vote +1 for Turkish tech tree (I’m not against it, mind you) despite the fact that Turkey has even worse clone situation for their Air Force tree than Ukraine (it’s basically 99% planes from US\UK\Italy).
Kind of hypocritical position, don’t you agree?
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After seeing the whole Tech tree, I changed my mind too. Dont worry about it. I think we need more unique vehicles… Like JF17, K1 etc etc
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+1 Awesome man, great work!
He meant +1, we need a new country
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nah. It is enough to research the Russian tree…
Do planes in Russian\soviet tree have Western ammunition’s (bombs\missiles\rockets) attached?
Does Russian\soviet tree have F-16/Mirage-2000-5/Gripen at the same time?
Ukraine Air tree will have (potentially) all of the above.
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and… why would you need it at the same time? As i remember, ARB still dont have respawns so you cant bring an entire garage.
dont need them as they would simply get SU25SM3s ATGMs which outperform western
Camos and Russia’s sub tree, done.
You dont need to research a tree if you dont want to …?
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So you just want russia with western tech on top gj copy paste
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Can we not get anything indigenous or domestically built ? with Ukraine or is it all copy paste ???
Argentina is considering transferring some of its Dassault-Breguet Super Étendard to Ukraine.
So that’s another possible addition.
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Ukraine was focused on developed civilian aviation industry historically and also aerospace industry (space rockets and engines), not combat. So no, there’s no “domestically built” combat planes.
But considering that only select few countries in the world have combat aviation development and manufacturing, and most of them are already in War Thunder, we have to work with what we have.
If you want to be a purist, please go and advocate the removal of all imported non-domestic vehicles from all current and future tech trees, and we’ll see how this will turn out.
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I’m not having a go, I’m just looking at all possibilities, i would love it for Ukraine to be represented in War Thunder, even if they did it would be great but its going to be alot of the same we already have, maybe they could be a sub tree with another nation ???
Personally I consider Air Force tree as a supplement for really strong Ground Forces tree, and such consideration would also apply for many other possible future nations with non-existing combat plane production or really recent to the point it’s only domestic top-tier (like aforementioned Turkey Tech Tree).
For now we have to work with soviet planes domestically modified with Western munitions and Western planes that will be a new additions to Air forces (F-16, Mirage-2000, possibly Gripen, possibly Super Étendard)
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MiG-29 (9-13) with special livery of “Ukrainian Falcons”, on combat readiness with R-27ER1 and R-73 missiles, 2014.
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UPD:
The tech tree has been updated, with further research some aircraft have been removed and others have taken their place.
Here is the list of changes I made:
Spoiler
Rank VII:
- Su-17M4R - Moved from premium section to researchable.
- Su-17M4 - Removed - Reason: Aircraft was not used by Ukrainian air force.
- MiG-27K - Removed - Reason: Aircraft was not used by Ukrainian air force, instead MiG-27M and D variants were in sevice.
- MiG-27D - New Aircraft (instead of removed MiG-27K)
- MiG-23UB - New Aircraft
- Su-25KM - New Aircraft
Rank VIII:
- Su-27P - Removed and replaced by standard Su-27 (otherwise known as Su-27S)
- MiG-29 (9-12) - Removed and replaced by MiG-29 “Ukrainian Falcons”
- MiG-29 “Ukrainian Falcons” - New Aircraft
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Footage of Su-17’s at reconnaissance regiment in Limanskyi, 1994.
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Not quite sure but i think i saw photos from training airfield of Kharkiv Air Force University featuring MiG-27K