The JM33 is is far better than dm23 due to the angled pen being over 50mm more.
In game the type 90s do pretty good in some.of the cqc maps due to being so mobile and capable of flanking.
Only reason i stopped using them was theres no point as the tkx and type 10 are on their own at top tier.
Yeah but for 410mm at 10.7 is one of the better rounds at that BR and performs fine. JM33 is just meh. Postpen is decent but nothing too special
1 Like
I think its because of the shorter reload, it gives them more leeway to make mistakes, despite the lesser armour, and a lot of avarage players tend to flock to the flanks so the tanks natural advantage shows
1 Like
One of the better rounds ?
Chinese round is better
Mango is far better
L26 is far better
The ariete gets a better round im sure as well.
Oh im not saying jm33 is 12.0 worthy round for example, but as it sits right now the type 90s in the handful of games i played seen more 10.3 games than 12.0 , granted that was before the most recent update. Which at this br the jm33 on a 4 second reload is insanely good.
While i dont think its like some chant its mega.op however i do feel it is under BRd where it sits right now.
I also want ground to go up to what ? 12.3 or 12.7 for more decompression which could accommodate these vehicles better allowing it to move up a half step.
1 Like
Thats true, I also understood you weren’t claiming the JM33 was good against 12.o sorry if i didnt phrase properly or restructure. The tank is definitely good, and can be good even only in a decent players hand (myself be like). But same goes for quite a few tanks, for instance the Tiger 2 is still probably consistently one of the best 6.7 tanks and can steamroll in down tiers
1 Like
Yeah we basically have one solution and its decompression.
Dont worry there are american mains on the chat about the sub tree for thailand saying the M1A2 is over BRd at 11.7 …
Thats the problem with tbis game the vast majority do not care about balance they just want their stuff to he untouchable.
Definitely need GRB max BR to go up to about 13.0 yeah 100+% agree
1 Like
Would certainly help the game imo
I don’t want the Type 90 to be untouchable or the challengers to have god armour. i want balance just as much as the next guy, but currently moving the type 90 would literally make the tank almost irrelevant. I feel like the TKS (P) could actually be fine at 11.7 simply due to the mobility difference between the two so long as it got a better round
1 Like
decompressing can at this state of the game not hurt it, there is such a thing as moderation ofc, its not like we should move max br to 20.0 because that would make the ranks veeery thinned out. at one point i wondered if they shouldve decreased max br to like 11.0 but make more split brs, for instance (10.0 - 10.2 - 10.4 - 10.6 - 10.8 - 11.0) where a 10.4 tank cant face a anything more than a 10.8 thank
Probably wont work tho, and decompression of the model already used would probably work better and easier to implement too
1 Like
Eh the challanger 2s are genuinely the worst top tiers right now due to the massive breach opening on tbe turret ring.
However as well the type 90s as you say would suffer a bit more at 11.7 (same br as the m1a2) realistically they are cauaing issues but the only solution is decompression.
Would actually solve a lot og issues
1 Like
I like to think that they’re the worst, but its also not completely true, Leclercs and Ariete doesnt get much benefit of the doubt either, but gaijin ignoring all the bug reports on the challenger is kinda annoying, because currently it is one of at least the worst 3 top tier mbts
Edit: and the speed make me want to commit heinous crimes
1 Like
To implement that would need a full.overhaul of every br and tank etc.
Just decompression would work fine just not adding it too high as you say
1 Like
The cr2 has worse ammo. Now worse reload due to ready rack being 4 rounds, after the buffed the ariete and merkava reloads the challanger 2 falls short unfortunately 😕
True, L27A1 is kinda pain sometimes, lets hope it CR2 gets a buff soon
1 Like
yeah the fact it goes to over 7 seconds without an aced crew, and max 6.5 with aced crew once you are past the ready rack is nuts.
But yeah ive took this a bit off topic ! my bad!
1 Like
NP, it can be somewhat relevant
1 Like
NGL the type 90 really has to move up to 11.7 now adays.
It’s become absolutely insanely oppressive