Not a bug. Contrast seekers and CCD seekers basically use the same logic, and the difference between the two is already implemented in the game with Type 81 having a better lock-on distance.
Also, on ground interference, it can have better than before due to imaging software or other technology, but if don’t quantify it, it can’t implement it. And TRDI’s documentation mentions that the Type 91 seeker had ground interference issues. This was resolved in Type 91 (B).
in this bug report the CCD was only impact was better locking range. because you know what should have CCD too? the AGM-65 after the A and B, which have a better locking range than the former. and yet it was somehow having different locking logic for it than the Type81C missile.
I made this bug report and also had a discussion about it with the moderator that denied it. They did not understand the focus of the report, which is why the reason for the denial is irrelevant.
But, as another moderator helped clear up, it still would’ve been denied regardless, since the issue is that it is lacking imaging mechanics and instead uses placeholder photocontrast. Since imaging is not a feature in the game at all, this is still not a bug but a suggestion.
The CCD seeker does roughly what it does in game, it lower noise, making it easier to recognize a targets signature at range. On an image seeker this would also make it easier to tell a target silhouette from its surroundings. A contrast seeker doesn’t distinguish the target itself, but tracks any contrast it sees, including the ground (which is War Thunders ground interference).
congratulations on how finding out that “the best it can currently is” because Gaijin still have no information about it.
the CVT playing around with the gear logic of the game. the could simply use that until the CVT comes, right? unless there is no information of the acceleration for the type 10. who could have known…
most information about modern military weapons is classified, yet they make guesstimations to implement them until new information gets declassified, they may not know about the specifics of the type 10 transmission but a CVT is not alien tech (it should be as mobile as the type 90 or more but you guessed it, its not), not to mention that the type 81C uses the wrong type of seeker and absurdly overcompensate for any lead to the targets, type 93 is the only stinger that didnt get a buff even when it should get a whole new missile
you just said what other people said, but just to me. i mean i read it alot already, yet it will not change a thing.
type 10 whole thing is guesstimate, even the type 81c. because it basically stinger on steroid.
look, guesstimate only work if you got partial data about it. type 10 only have engine horse power and top speed. and no video evidence do not count since gaijin rule and can be manipulated, so go find unclassified acceleration from reliable source for all of them. until then you basically stuck.
I had a conversation in the forum somewhere about the CCD on the AGM-65, it basically if I’m remembering this correctly, it’ll improve the range and accuracy of the AGM hitting target but also improving that lock range of the target.
It’s also means that CCD is just a mean for acquiring target. I imagine that ,unless I’m wrong, the CCD should not depend on the size of seeker and size of the target of aircraft. And from what you are telling me it should have a bit better/reduced and more resistance against ground interference.
But then again the logic of the locking itself still unknown mostly.
Man, don’t you just hate that MoD have to keep stuff secret, so that an online game can’t just leak stuff.
Couldn’t be me!
Yes, but that is only because it’s an imaging seeker. Sadly we don’t have imaging mechanics in game, so it’s not a bug.
Basically a contrast seeker tracks any contrast ot happens to see, which when the target is low enough includes the ground and interferes with the seeker.
An imaging seeker memorizes the target and continues filtering out other contrasts unless the target manages to blend in or obscure itself wirh its surroundings enough to make the seeker unable to recognize its image anymore.
So sadly that part isn’t helped just by being a CCD seeker.
so gajin guestimates stuff they do not have real data of and attach mechanics that arent even in the tech in real life that is far beyond beeing competetive comapred to other tech they have in other nation,in that case the pantsir for example. So if they already put stuff into the game that doesnt even match the real life tech and therefore scales it down in game and beeing worse than the stuff other nations have so why they dont add the good stuff of the other techs? i mean giving similar lock mechanics and abilitys even its not realistic but therefor more balanced? they cant play the “its not realistic” card when they add unrealistic mechqnics just due the lack of data. then use the data u have from other stuff even if its not part of that tech. I dont care having a tech simulated that is not part of that vehicle in real life as long i can keep up with another nations tech and have it balanced. i do care if i cant compete because they make it worse than it is in real life because of missing data! or just dont add suprior tech!
I believe that’s desync between client and server (server doesn’t believe you can lock that), OR the automatic seeker mode is just shit. Try switching between IR and contrast manually?
Type 81 C we have rn is basically limited and nerfed compared to how they perform irl. I saw bug reports of stingers downing friendlies at 6km to 7km away in real life by accident while in game we cant lock till its 2km to 3km close…Gaijin chose not to use that as proof or evidence to improve the stingers in game…imagine the Type 81 which is more advanced than the stingers…It’s just what Gaijin thinks how these sams works i guess…
Ah yes, the stingers can’t be that good because Russia couldn’t make something as good!
It’s crazy that the Type 81 is all you get as Japan when you can’t lock onto most things and you don’t even have a radar at top tier.
The current zoom of the 81C is 6.0x-12.0x. However, the magazines that this site references say it is 2.5x-12.5x. link
I refer to several Japanese military magazines, but because this site is run by an individual, I know that I cannot accept it 100%. But I would like to share this with you with the hope of a grain of sand.
